Sad doesn't even being to describe...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Slider, Oct 12, 2003.

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    Slider Guest

    Sad doesn't even being to describe how this guy must think...

    http://tinyurl.com/qmbf
    [e-bay]

    Not only that, but look at the price! Clearly out of his mind.
     
    Slider, Oct 12, 2003
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    Slider Guest

    ^^^^^

    Begin, obviously. I think those spinning wheels do something odd to the
    mind....
     
    Slider, Oct 12, 2003
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Wouldn't that **** up the handling completely as well , having what looks to
    be a substantial weight rotating at a different speed to the wheels?
    --
    Alex
    SRX 400

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Oct 12, 2003
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    darsy Guest

    I saw wheels like that on a Merc CLK the other day - they look
    unbelievably gash.
     
    darsy, Oct 12, 2003
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    Sean Guest


    Merkins. Take a perfectly good Jap or European sprot bike and make it look
    like a proverbial tarts handbag. Arse up the handling to the level of the
    Merkin home product. Ugh.

    Could someone please provide a rationale behind that product, and could the
    OP redeem themselves by explaining WTF they were searching for?
     
    Sean, Oct 12, 2003
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  6. No.
     
    Old Fart at Play, Oct 12, 2003
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    Slider Guest

    [snip]
    To set your mind at rest, I saw the link in
    alt.binaries.pictures.motorcycles.sportbike from a guy who said:

    "Check this out"

    obviously a little excited by the whole thing. I just couldn't believe that
    anyone could do something that sad.
     
    Slider, Oct 12, 2003
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    Slider Guest

    [snip]
    Good argument.
     
    Slider, Oct 12, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 10:51:42 GMT, "Slider"

    ["spinner" wheels]
    Sadly enough, I had a look at their website, wanting a bigger picture
    as I'm struggling a bit in understanding wtf these wheels are. Same
    tiny pic, no explanation. Oddly, _no_ customer reviews, either.

    I assume that these are the same thing that's been about for a while -
    that the wheels are fitted with a bearing-supported chunk of metal
    that continues to spin when the wheel is stationary?

    I'd like one of the resident fizzicysts to advise on the implications
    for handling; not to mention the rather silly addition to unsprung
    weight for cosmetic porpoises. I really can't see the point.
     
    Pip, Oct 12, 2003
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Its got me convinced
    --
    Alex
    SRX 400

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Oct 12, 2003
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Care to elaborate?
    --
    Alex
    SRX 400

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Oct 12, 2003
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  12. Yes.
     
    Old Fart at Play, Oct 12, 2003
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  13. I forgot to include the long version.

    Firstly, gyroscopic effects are orders of magnitude too small
    to affect the handling of a bike. If you think that gyroscopic
    effects are the reason that countersteering works, i.e. that a small
    push on the bars gats a bike well banked over, just think what effect
    getting both wheels (and the whole bike) rapidly over at 45 degrees
    would have due to those same gyroscopic effects.

    Secondly, the free spinning disc is lighter and closer to the
    spindle so has a much smaller moment of inertia than the rest of the
    wheel, so any gyro effect will be an order of magnitude smaller again.

    Roger.
     
    Old Fart at Play, Oct 12, 2003
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    Sean Guest

    OK, you're redeemed. I really would -not- like to ride a bike equipped with
    those things with anything approaching enthusiasm. I don't know the physics
    behind it, but I will hazard a guess that they do some very odd things to
    the front end.

    If they in any way assisted the handling of a bike, you can bet the Japs
    would fit them as stock within the constraints of production engineering.
    Quite a good arbiter that, IMO.

    What next?, valve caps that light up?, leading link springer forks?.
     
    Sean, Oct 12, 2003
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  15. Dr Zoidberg wrote
    Might help if you wanted to countersteer a shaftie.
     
    steve auvache, Oct 12, 2003
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    ozmick Guest

    Why would a shaftie be different from a non-shaftie ?
     
    ozmick, Oct 12, 2003
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    Platypus Guest

    <applause>

    There was a guy back in the last century who built a bike with heavy
    steel rings running on rollers inside the tyres. He wrote it up for
    Motorcycle Sport in about 86 or so. When he had built the thing, he
    went for a ride to get the rings spinning, then come to a
    halt...waited...fell over.

    Cyclists - the lycra mob, on those spindly things with no engine - their
    wheels weigh 3/16ths of **** all. They use countersteering.
    Countersteering is powered by the magic of geometry, where you steer one
    way, and your track goes out from under your CofG, and you fall the
    other way.

    --
    Platypus - Faster Than Champ
    VN800 Drifter, R80RT
    DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19
    BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89 FTB#11
    BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15
     
    Platypus, Oct 13, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:24:55 +0000 (UTC), "Dr Ivan D. Reid"

    [spinner wheels]
    Funnily enough, I ask myself "Does Rossi use an RF900?" and when the
    answer is negative, I know that's why I'm not as quick as he would be.
    See?

    It makes sense in my world and I'd thank you not to disillusion me ;-)
     
    Pip, Oct 13, 2003
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