RZ350 Yamaha CDI problem FIX? Also called RD350LC YPVS

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by glenb900, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. glenb900

    glenb900 Guest

    Yamaha RZ350 CDI problem FIX?

    Yamaha RZ350's (especially 1983 and 1984 models) have a CDI problem
    that
    causes it to fail over time. A used unit from a a newer model don't
    work
    unless you replace most electrics. I heard of some people fixing this
    problem by taking the CDI apart and replacing or soldering the
    fault. It's hard to take the CDI apart but I never seen anyone release
    the
    fix or a schematic of the CDI with test procedures.

    Does anyone have a schematic/circuit details or know how to test, FIX
    this
    CDI?

    All the info I have listed here I found posted in newsgroups, etc but
    does not include repair info. If you change the stator/CDI/coils from a
    newer model, it will work BUT it would be nice to know how or why the
    CDI
    units are failing and what (transistor/diode/resistor) needs to be
    resoldered/replaced.

    PLEASE post any technical info about this problem.
    I'm interested mainly in the 1983/84 CDI info. New CDI's also have
    problems but
    don't have a high failure rate like the 1983/84 models. Someone below
    also said they fix the problem but never posted the fix and the e-mail
    from
    1997 don't work anymore.

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    This may sound obvious, but did you check the spark after it cut out.
    Supposedly there was a design flaw in the cdi box that caused them to
    fail at a high rate. My bike has a broken box. Have to preheat the box
    or park under the hot sun for it to start. If you have a bad cdi, it's
    $$$ to replace.

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    My second CDI box quit this summer. BUT I fixed it !!!
    Took a couple of hours to dig through the epoxy and gravel but I
    have fixed it. I am about to attempt this on another box in a couple
    of weeks. Do not throw away your CDI boxes just yet. Just in case
    I have actually figured out how to fix them and it aint just a fluke.

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    i assumed that the YPVS and
    ignition system would be nearly identical. I could not find any spec
    regarding the CDI unit, in fact the manual stated that Yamaha had not
    released details at the date of publication?

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    tighten a large hose type clamp with a dowel on top mid-point applies
    pressure
    to the circuit board in the CDI for it to work again. This is ONLY a
    temp fix
    so you can find a replacement or fix your old one.

    Three CDI types on Yamaha RZ350:

    29K-50 for 31K 1983-1984 RZ350
    52Y-50 for 57V/1JF 1985-1986 RZ350
    1UA-50 for 1WT/1UA/3DH1 1987 on ?
     
    glenb900, Sep 10, 2006
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  2. glenb900

    alx Guest

    Had an '83 250, load of fun :)

    My fix was to sell the bike before it failed.....

    Why do they fail?
    One known cause was they were prone to fail if spark plugs were not earthed
    whilst engine kicked over.
    ie. if the ignition energy cannot be dissipated via the spark plug then it
    dissipated in the CDI...what a great design!!!

    Sounds like the usual "save the 20c fuse" by burning out the $200 electrical
    component.

    I still have some brand new platinum plugs floating about. Prob suit the
    350.
     
    alx, Sep 10, 2006
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  3. glenb900

    alx Guest

    The CDI also controls the power valves. Not a generic item...
     
    alx, Sep 11, 2006
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  4. glenb900

    atec 77 Guest

    I would be interested in how .
     
    atec 77, Sep 11, 2006
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  5. glenb900

    alx Guest

    My bad...maybe..... we may be talking about a different black box.. I
    vaguely recollect there was the ONE blackbox that did all sorts of shite,
    inc the YPVS system and timing.
     
    alx, Sep 11, 2006
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  6. glenb900

    atec 77 Guest

    I know the box will control timing n shite :)
    problem with many of them is heat..
     
    atec 77, Sep 11, 2006
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  7. glenb900

    alx Guest

    They were mounted up underneath the tank I think?
     
    alx, Sep 11, 2006
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