Royal Enfield motorbike - why would anyone buy one?

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by ship, Jul 27, 2006.

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    ChrisDC Guest

    Excellent choice, but some of your other steeds are less wonderful.
     
    ChrisDC, Jul 29, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    Ah, yes, the BMWs. They were crap.
     
    platypus, Jul 29, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    The UKRM consultancy fee might be rather high seeing as we're writing
    the fucking article for you.

    If I were you I'd hand the job of researching it into the hands of a
    work experience student who will be more than capable.
     
    BGN, Jul 30, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    What a load of bollocks. Absolute shite of the type that can only be
    spouted by someone who's so mind numbingly boring that the only way
    they can stand out in a crowd is to buy a rubbish motorcycle.

    Get a fucking life. They're not expensive and they can be fun if you
    try hard enough.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jul 30, 2006
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    Beckyboo Guest

    There are more *interesting* ways to stand out in a crowd these days!
    Buy a one-way ticket to Beirut. You'll never land but you'll beat the
    rush hour traffic (big time)!

    Lots of hotel rooms to choose from, all free! You may have trouble
    finding the actual hotel, but heh that happens everywhere. Bring a tent
    just in case.
    Another suggestion, Ship, buy the darn thing yourself, and give up on
    this auction idea.

    You could mount it on a stick and give the grandkids rides when they
    come over. Attach a meter for euros. Within a few months, you'll have
    enough money to buy a nice bike.

    :)
     
    Beckyboo, Jul 30, 2006
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    ship Guest

    Excellent. Finally wev'e got some well-balanced input Bull65.
    Yep sounds to me like you know what you're talking about.
    Have you ever actually owned/ridden one, then? (Unlike most of the
    biggots
    on this thread - and I dont say that out of malice, btw, it's just
    clearly true
    that most of the opinions expressed on this thread have been massively
    are one-sided!)

    More importantly, have you ever tried the bike in question the
    Bullet Electra-X, with supposedly much better breaks, much more
    reliable
    500cc engine (designed for 44bhp, but tuned for 25bph to meet noise &
    emission standards) ? Did it break down on you?

    I just discovered this review of the Electra
    http://www.realclassic.co.uk/enfield04101400.html
    A bit long but quite enlightening.

    And sheds quite a lot of light on the reliability issue. Yes,
    apparently back in 1996 they *were* horrendously unreliable. But with
    the new engine and much better front brakes maybe much of that has
    changed. One thing is clear - and that is that they are still designed
    to be very easy to maintain and tune - no doubt extremely important in
    a market like India.

    Btw, they only make about 25,000 bikes per year and have done so
    steadily for the last 55 year...


    Ship
    Shiperton Henethe
     
    ship, Jul 30, 2006
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  7. Higher quality crank failures?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 30, 2006
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  8. now who's spouting bollocks. I've got 4 vehicles and no money, and that's
    without adding a wife into the equation...
     
    Austin Shackles, Jul 30, 2006
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    tomorrow Guest

    Heh. This from a member of the group that is more willing to judge a
    person by what they own than any other vicious little girl's tea party
    I've ever stumbled across on the net!
     
    tomorrow, Jul 30, 2006
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    ship Guest

    ship, Jul 30, 2006
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  11. Wotcha.
    I still own one - and an Enfield - and a Nuovo Falcone

    Can you see a theme here ? A theme based on ugliness ?
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Jul 30, 2006
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'm not a member of any group so go **** yourself you useless, fucked
    up oxygen thief.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jul 30, 2006
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    Rob Guest

    I've never ridden a 'modern' Enfield but thirty-mumble years ago I owned
    an original 1956 UK-built 500 Bullet.

    In its day it was a fine bike, and that's the important bit to remember,
    in its day. ISTR that my Enfield was slightly more oil-tight than many
    other bits of Brit iron owned by mates of mine, and in my own experience
    it was totally reliable. Any problems I had with it were all down to my
    own youthful ignorance and ham-fistedness.

    By modern standards (i.e. virtually anything built since the mid-60s) it
    was appallingly bad. Dreadful brakes, useless lighting and interesting
    handling (probably down to knackered old cheapo tyres on mine). But as I
    said, in its day it wasn't too bad a bike, when measured against most of
    its contemporaries (AJS, BSA, Matchless and Norton singles). It was
    certainly streets ahead of the BSA C11s that were made at the same sort
    of time.

    Today it's an anachronism and I suspect its target market is nostalgic
    old gits like me who couldn't afford a new one in the 60s, and don't
    want a crotch-rocket to scare themselves shitless when returning to
    biking as a result of a mid-life crisis. As long as you treat it like
    that, then there's nothing wrong with it - take it out on fine Sundays
    for a potter down the lanes and keep it in a garage and get it properly
    maintained (unlike the way we treated our bikes way-back-when) then if
    that's what you wanted out of a bike, that's fine.

    Bloke across the road from me bought one (a 350) new last year. He only
    uses it on fine days and doesn't do a lot of miles. He's an experienced
    bike mechanic (keeping his sons' motocross bikes in fettle for a good 15
    years now) and knows exactly what he's bought. It's what HE wanted.

    I'm not sure about tarting up a 50+ year old design with modern bits
    like electric start and disk brakes, but it does make it a bit more
    usable on today's roads.

    I was tempted by an Enfield when I returned to biking a few years back,
    having owned an original, but I bought an old Virago instead. No chain
    is a big attraction, as is the 'sitting on the bog reading a newspaper'
    riding position. And its build quality is somewhat better than Enfields
    of a few years back, but the one over the road from me seems quite well
    screwed together and hasn't started falling apart (yet).

    The Enfield won't suit most people but to its target market it's the
    dog's danglies. I wish you well with your auction, just don't expect
    many bidders...
     
    Rob, Jul 30, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    I had a Dnepr outfit. I now have a GL1200. All my themes are based on
    bleeding-edge eccentricity.
     
    platypus, Jul 30, 2006
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    tomorrow Guest

    Now, don't go getting your panties in a twist, dearie!
     
    tomorrow, Jul 30, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    What, coz he thinks along the same lines as you? Thats typical Ship tht is.
    I don't know of any sane bike rider who'd buy an Enfield these days. I've
    ridden more than a few and even had a session on one last year. Total shite
    they were and total shite they still are.
    And just as many breaks as ever. The brakes are still crap though.

    much more
    That would hardly be difficult to achieve.

    (designed for 44bhp, but tuned for 25bph to meet noise &
    That's frightening power that is.

    Did it break down on you?
    Why the "maybe" in there Ship? If it's a proper review it shuld say "yah" or
    "nay", not fucking "maybe"

    One thing is clear - and that is that they are still designed
    No doubt, but even in India, they're not a sought after machine.
    At least we're not going to get inundated with the fucking things then.



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    Beav, Jul 30, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    Not to mention this:-

    You still have to put up with a build quality that is well short of true
    modern motorcycles but, then again, parts are very cheap and it's now more
    likely to keep going.



    Sort of fills you with confidence as you head off to an important meeting or
    a cross continent jaunt, doesn't it?


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    Beav, Jul 30, 2006
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Aha. What's the Guzzi like, then?

    I quite fancy one of those.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jul 30, 2006
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    platypus Guest

    platypus, Jul 30, 2006
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  20. Wotcha.
    Strangely enough, I've just got back in after using the Guzzi.
    To be blunt - the Enfield is a sports bike compared to the Guzzi. The
    massive flywheel makes each gearchange a challenge. You wait for the revs
    to drop before moving the lever ( Right hand change - same shift pattern as
    the Enfield, one up, the rest down ). Agricultural is the best term for the
    thing, but having said that, it's a most relaxing machine to ride. No use
    at all if you are in a rush though.
    Take a nose at :--
    http://www.devce.demon.co.uk/falcone.htm
    and if that doesn't put you off owning one, then nowt will.
    I bought mine as a "brand new 30 year old machine" for two grand - and I
    reckon it was money well spent.
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Jul 30, 2006
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