Rossi to Ducati - Bayliss to Honda!

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Mordwid, Sep 19, 2003.

  1. Mordwid

    Mordwid Guest

    Well I'm surprised not to see more discussion on this......

    it was on the nine network tv news this morning...Rossi to Ducati in '04 for
    $15million!! with Bayliss taking his spot in the Honda team.

    Mighty interesting for next year - unheard of for number 1 rider on the
    number 1 machine to leave for new pastures even withstanding the excellent
    debut for Duke this year!!
     
    Mordwid, Sep 19, 2003
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  2. I can't see this happening. Rossi is critical of tabacco advertising and
    Ducati are sponsored by Marlboro. Besides, then Bayliss would kick his
    butt.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff Westwood, Sep 19, 2003
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  3. http://www.speedtv.com/articles/moto/motogp/8085/

    This is probably where the rumour started and if it is then News
    Limited pulled it a long way from what is printed there.

    However, that said, I wouldn't mind betting it will happen...

    Cheers


    Kevin Gleeson
    Imagine It
    West Hobart
    Tasmania Australia
    www.imagine-it.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Sep 19, 2003
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  4. Mordwid

    Julian Bond Guest

    We need confirmation. There's nothing yet on the US sites, MotoGP or the
    Aus sites. And the Ducati site is currently down for maintenance.

    If it's real, I guess we'll know soon enough.
     
    Julian Bond, Sep 19, 2003
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  5. Mordwid

    Stevo Guest

    Don't sweat Julian.. I suspect it is just some creative journalism...

    The possible original 'source' might be here 3rd to last paragraph..

    http://www.speedtv.com/articles/moto/motogp/8085/
     
    Stevo, Sep 19, 2003
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  6. There are a lot of rumors about Rossi because he was supposed to sigh at
    Estoril and he didn't, but I doubt Honda is interested by Bayliss with
    Hayden already in their hands.
     
    Pierre Bonneau, Sep 19, 2003
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  7. Mordwid

    Champ Guest

    Unheard of? What about when Lawson took his #1 plate from Yamaha to
    Honda in 89?
     
    Champ, Sep 19, 2003
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  8. Mordwid

    T3 Guest


    Yes, it makes for great speculation BUT the bottom line is money. I doubt
    that Ducati can afford Rossi, what they've done so far is remarkable, I just
    don't think they have the bucks that it's going to take to land his
    Rossiness, that and the cigarette thing will be a show stopper. No matter
    how much animosity he may have for Honda(remember when he walked out of
    contract negotiations last time) and yes, being Italian, he probably really
    wants to ride the Duc but it always comes down to money. Ducati is in the
    "big times" now, if they really want the best,they'll have to dig really
    deep to afford the best and make no mistake Rossi is the best, period...

    T3
     
    T3, Sep 19, 2003
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  9. Mordwid

    Julian Bond Guest

    You could argue quite persuasively that the man made the machine as
    well.
    As you could with Doohan.

    In both cases, they're work on developing the machine has resulted in
    something so relatively user friendly that lesser riders can get awfully
    close them. But despite everything, Rossi (with Burgess) still have a
    stack of points in hand.
     
    Julian Bond, Sep 19, 2003
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  10. Mordwid

    Julian Bond Guest

    I don't think it's a question of how deep Ducati's pockets are, but
    rather how deep Marlboro's are.
     
    Julian Bond, Sep 19, 2003
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    Chris Cavin Guest

    <joke>

    Maybe both Rossi and Doohan are crap and it's really *Burgess* that's the
    God? :)

    </joke>

    -Dirt-
     
    Chris Cavin, Sep 19, 2003
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  12. Mordwid

    dpeninton Guest

    Burgess was also the man behind Gardner when he was at his most
    competitive also.
     
    dpeninton, Sep 20, 2003
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  13. Mordwid

    T3 Guest

    I felt the same as you do until I watched him break the lap record on the
    last lap of the race on shot tires, impressive...That and that fact that in
    qualifying he seems to be able to pull a half second out of his ass anytime
    it's needed but you do have a point on the ethics angle. I just think that
    in the end, not only does Honda have the best equipment and logistics they
    also have the deepest pockets. I, like about 20 million Italians would love
    to see him on the Duc, I just think it's a long shot at best, we'll
    see...OBTW, I didn't mean to imply he was the best ever,I believe he's the
    best that's racing right now , granted on the very best equipment also.


    T3
     
    T3, Sep 20, 2003
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  14. Mordwid

    Julian Bond Guest

    There were numerous stories about the late 2001, early 2002 period that
    the RCV was pretty nasty to ride. It wasn't until Rossi put the R&D and
    testing work in that it started to reach it's potential. Now given that
    the origin of these stories is Rossi and Burgess and that they
    consistently play up their own strengths, you have to take them with a
    pinch of salt.
     
    Julian Bond, Sep 21, 2003
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    Cetec Guest

    Na, na, na... do you want to bet? Rossi goes to Yamaha, directly dealing
    with Japan at this moment, probably announced in Malaysia GP if Rossi gets
    the championship in that race
     
    Cetec, Sep 22, 2003
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  16. I read that he was the first to be able to reject and change revisions on
    the Honda 500s. He was the one to demand Brembo brakes when Honda insisted
    on using their own and so forth. This was a contribution to his success.
    "Liftime two-stroke guy"? As a driver you don't need more than som basic
    feel for engines to quickly convert from two-stroke to multi-sylinder four
    strokes to twin four strokes and visa verca. Again look at doohan and Rossi.
    Racing superbikes and endurance bikes never seemed to be a problem, even if
    it was only for a race or two in the season.
    Only if one asume that Honda had to be miles better than any one else in
    developing an exelent four stroke GP bike. To me it rather seems to show the
    failings of Yamaha, Suki and Kawa.
    Well, you certainly didn't give any evidence to opposite.

    /MBE
     
    morten becker-eriksen, Sep 24, 2003
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