Rossi on Stoner

http://www.rte.ie/sport/motorsport/2008/0722/rossi_stoner.html

'On the podium he told me that he'd lost respect for me because he's been
racing for many years and he doesn't remember ever having a race like that,'
said the Italian.

'Well if he's been racing for many years, I've been racing for a lifetime
and I don't know who he's been racing against but I remember all my races
being like that and my rivals always fought that way.'

 

Your douchieness is stunning!
Tell ya' what Buttbomb, next time you're in Italia' grab a decent
bottle of Dago red and ask for a cavatappi and see if you get a f'ing
noodle, but don't let that get in the way of your hatred for all things
Rossi, or for that matter, European..

Photos on the left, and more than likely, just for you...
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavatappi

 

I may have been in error, you're prolly more schmucky than douchie! In
any event arguing Italian with a guy named Sierchio pretty much says it
all, dumb...

It's only a matter of time till you either reveal yourself completely,
or someone does it for you...

 

Who gives a fuk? Heheh, I wished Vale had of pulled his pecker out and
pissed down the 'Screw, rather than kissed it, after the way he took
Stonah to school he earned it...

Spitting at you? OMG..!
TBH it's your cheesy ass hypocritical way, for it to be something else
I'd have to actually give a fuk what you think and I do not...

 

Mark N points out:

Good, good, you've learned something. Try to remember.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

 

Mark N asks:

Won +50 vintage MX - barely. Great race, guy in
second tried the only double on the last lap, over
my head, made it but couldn't stop for the corner.
On a '72 400 CZ !

I went inside back under him to win the moto and
overall.

Oh wait, you mean *this* weekend. Didn't go -
haven't been to an AMA stuporbike race in a
long time. Rode dirt bikes with my kid instead.
Griffin reported the rumor mill stuff for me, that's
all I'm interested in just now.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

 

Solid advice..

Right to what? Dude, there isn't many people, or, for that matter,
threads in this group you haven't resorted to name calling, vicious, or
otherwise, at on time or another, so crying about how you're treated
rings "just a little" hollow, at least to me. However, if you're
somehow signaling an intent to back things off a notch or two, I, for
one, will welcome it, though that does not mean you won't have to
endure a little abuse for a while for your past indiscretions, sorry,
that's just how it goes...

Movin' on..

Now we're talkin'! Sturdy, WTF was up with the water (of all things)
off the Honda Bridge? I thought they stopped all bridge traffic once
the race was about to resume, you have any idea what happened, or what
complete asshole "done it"? I'd have to think long and hard to remember
a SB race as screwed up as Saturday's. Oh wait, the last one was there
too! Hmmm..
Whether it actually was, or not Saturday's SB deal came off as club
racing (at it's worse) on the tube, especially when Page(?) had to run
down a fire extinguisher to douse his ride and how in the hell did
Hodgy oil so much track? It looked like he dumped every bit of fluid
that bike had and then some of Miggy's! Will we see a fluid rule of
some sort in the future? I mean, If DMG's gonna go big TV like they
said and force rain racing too, taking a half hour, or so to clean up a
mess like that will have to have some consequences I would think..

Sunday's SB race? Same old, same old, yawn...
(Kudo's to Spies just for showin' up)

SSport? Good stuff, but I think it's safe to say old Freddy had
an(other) off day as announcer, as he got the WTF look from Dreber a
couple of times.
I see the protest circle is almost complete too, Honda loses the D200
to Kaw for a trik crank, then Kaw is DQ'd from "Guna for flowed heads,
now Honda is protesting Yam's frame, I dunno about you, but I won't be
real surprised if DMG doesn't start coming down pretty hard on such
things. It's starting to look as if the OEM's don't care about the
rules and if DMG's is gonna' run M/C racing anything like they do Grand
AM and Nascar, I'm thinkin' at some point, (soon) somebody's either
gonna' be gone, or will be writing the big check just to stay..

SStock? A damn good race and even though that class is (currently)
dominated by one brand it's more than likely a precursor of next year's
ASB action. Be that as it may, hat's off to Blake for a great effort..

 

T3 asks:

Report I got from an attendee was that the bridge opened for
traffic during the first red flag. It's a foot bridge - they don't
let
people on during racing so that they can't just stand there and
watch. Pretty freakin stupid on somebodies part. The whole
Mid-O scene is pretty stupid, part of the reason I no longer
go. The campsite is not a place for the timid though new
Ohio State DNR rules this year - they have to treat campsites
as regulated campsites. Meant there were spaces marked out
for each camp. Did it quell the rowdyness? No idea but I doubt
it.

Got to meet Dreber at the swap meet weekend before. He rode
his Tiger to the vintage event and was hanging out with the Stoner
Swap meet guys and cruising for some parts for some project.
Pretty nice guy, interesting stories once we got him going.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

 

Heh, as much as it may have proved how owl shit slick that surface gets
with a little moisture, the act itself was criminally stupid IMO,
though not noticing it before guys started dropping like flies not much
better..

As I'm sure you know craziness, or more candidly, drunk's are pretty
much always a prob at places where your locked in for the night and the
only real thing a promoter can do is to have them arrested and hauled
away, if they just ran them off and something bad happened they'd
prolly be held at least partially responsible. The last place we camped
was at DIS a while back and not only were the nite guards all
(part-time) DB's finest, they had a paddy wagon on site too! Suffice to
say, they/it had chilling effect on the blatant crazy shit..

Yeah? He tell ya' about Freddy and his bible? %-)

 

Renaming The Corkscrew, "Noodle Corner" sounds like a plan to me. So was
Stoner touched by Rossi's noodly appendage? Can we expect to see a
Flying Spaghetti Monster sticker on Rossi's fairing?

 

skipping all the side track noodle talk....

It was interesting to me that Rossi called the move one of the best passes
of his career. Overall I think Stoner is being a bit whiny (whinging) here
but that particular pass I found pretty suspect, diving under too fast,
running off track, barging back on blocking the other rider. If there wasn't
and elevation change there if would be a normal chicane, and generally
speaking it is bad (i.e. illegal) to pass people by leaving the
track and cutting the corner off a chicane.

Bruce

 

Stoner was the one that said he was glad to be out of 125 when he moved
to 250 because they were all crazy and dangerous. Yup.

All part of the game. We're into a war of words now as well as on the
track.

 

Why not? Perhaps he's "playing the game" too.

Also, the level of self-belief required at this level really mitigates
against admitting that you just got beat. It's much more productive,
mentally, to believe that the other guy didn't play fair. I think
Stoner really believes what he's saying, but I think he's about the
least objective person on the planet on this subject right now.

 

Absolutely, but in the end does it matter? Beyond attempting to bandage
a bruised ego I can't see much else, as I'd be really surprised if Vale
cares what Stoner thinks. Bottom line, there were many opportunities
for Casey to use his duc's apparent speed advantage to win that race,
only problem he was a little too busy being "schooled" by the maestro,
err, "Dottore". Say what you want about how that race was run, but to
me it was about as classic as they come. Two guys going hard at it for
the lead as they race away from everyone else, that doesn't happen very
often and when it does and someone tosses it like Stoner did it may
indicate an area of concern, or weakness, not to mention the skillz of
who he was chasing. Did Rossi "break" him? It's hard to argue anything
else, at least at that race. Does, or will it set something up for the
future? Take that to the bank and if it doesn't happen sooner, I'd
imagine PI this year might be real good...

 

Rossi's lap times were fast and consistent. Certainly there's no hint
from the time sheets that he was messing with lines and braking
points. Now, no rider is a machine, there's always some small
variation in these things, but from the television there was again no
hint that he was doing what you assert.

On the other side, we have Stoner who was unable to use his/Ducati
advantages against Rossi/Yamaha. That must have been frustrating, and
it certainly looked like Stoner was getting frustrated. He knew his
best chance was to run Rossi *really* close thru the last corner, and
try and use the Ducati's speed advantage down the straight. I think
he just got *too* close, and then 'rationalised' the mistake into
Rossi not playing fair.

Seriously, you'd be amazed at the mental gymnastics people will
perform in order to avoid accepting responsibility.

 

I really don't think you can tell much from television, because
changes can be quite subtle and it's just not a good way to see the
action. Where I was during the race was at the exit of turn one, and
you could see the big differences in braking and entry into two from
there for everyone lap to lap (it's very hard to get that entirely
consistent), but it's just not that visible on TV. And Rossi put in
his fastest laps when Stoner made his big mistake there and was gapped
a bit, which suggests Rossi had something left in the bag when he
wasn't protecting himself from behind. I also don't think small
differences in lines and braking points are necessarily going to show
up on the time sheets, there's more than one very specific line around
a race track.

...and in order to maintain hero worship...

 

Reading Mark's posts is enough for me to realise the capacity of the
human mind for self deception.