Road user fees.

Buses. Trucks.

Cars.

Motorcycles.

We all have to pay road fees and taxes.

Why is there no fee of those that ride pushbikes?
Because they don't emit pollution?

Phsaw... ('sorf..).

Use the road. Pay for the privelege. Don't care
what you use.

Pushies.. 15 y/o upwards oughta pay rego too. Then
they can block the road of those that do pay, every
goddamn year, and not be given a gobful from the
heart.

just a really selfish, sick an' tired of payin' a tax
for everything person, who gets the shts when
pushies block me, or my road.

dad

 

I don't think it should be going quite that purple, you really should
relax your grip a little.


BTH

 

do you have a car?

i don't. i wanna go somewhere, i ride. I ain't purple
bro'. i'm just an everyday rider.

you commute daily yeah?

hmm?

 

I have a truck, and two motorcycles. Do you have a job?

So far as I know, we're not related. I'll thank you not to call me
that.

Why yes, I ride my bicycle 32km every work day.

You, however, have popped out of nowhere and spouted your nonsense
with all the righteous assurance of a One Nation "policy launch".

When you come out with lines like:

Why yes, that sounds very fair. You do realise that your registration
and petrol taxes only pay for a part of the construction and road
maintenace budget? A rather large chunk comes from consolidated
revenue, which in turn comes from Commonwealth grants to the states
and GST revenues.

Up to 15 for free? Why should your little bastards get a free ride at
my expense?

I'm just a childless taxpayer sick and tired of handouts to breeders.
Why should your kids be blocking me with their 40kph speed limit just
because MY road happens to go past a school?

Consider this: most abuse I've received as a cyclist comes from the
inside of P-plated cars and on-their-last-legs tradie vehicles. i.e.
those who at heart feel that they're only a tiny step up the pecking
order. Oddly enough, they're pretty much the same ones that cause me
the most grief while I'm on a motorcycle, and bleat the loudest about
all the free stuff that motorcyclists get (like parking). Would you
accept that you should pay the same rate for parking that car drivers
do?

Also, you're using less than half the fuel that a car does, so clearly
you're not pulling your weight in contributing to road funding via
your fuel taxes. You should therefore be happy to pay the excise for
all that fuel that you didn't use last year.

How about those old people on their mobility scooters? Bludgers!

And I saw a whole bunch of people just walking to work for free
yesterday, along a strip of footpath that *I* paid for! Bastards!

Get over it.


BTH

 

In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 05 Mar 2007 04:30:27 GMT

Because rego fees don't pay for roads. General revenue and council
rates do. Cyclists pay those in the same way you do.

Put it this way... the amount of road your yearly rego pays for
doesn't quite add up to the contact patch of your tyres.

Zebee

 

what's a nizzle? Come to that, what's a shizzle????

betty ;-)

 

LITTLE BILL.... LITTLE BILL...

 

You do that very well.

 

Why stop there? Any pedestrian crossing the road should be required to
pay road use fees and wear number plates on their ass so that
jaywalking cameras can identify people breaking the law. The upside
here is that pretty soon the state government will want pedestrians to
wear frontal identification and motorcyclists will The have Harold
Scruby on our side shouting down the whole frontal identification scam.

 

What about those fucking cats and dogs? Don't let them off so easily...

 

They should pay based on the amount of road they use and the wear they
cause. I'll happily pay the grand total of $3.50 for all pushies for the
first year and give you the kick in the nuts.

Get a life ...

Cheers
Goaty
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A nizzle is something that's been shizzled.
A shizzle is something that you do to a nizzle.
sheesh Betty get with it!!!!

 

They certainly take their lives in their hands every time they get on
the road. I think I saw a pushie rider die on Gininnderra Drive this
morning on my way to work.

Stretch of road between Tillyard Drive and Companion Crescent - there
are always pushie riders going along there at that hour - ranging from
fairly to barely visible.

Pre-dawn, motorcycle involved if the bike parked by the side of the
road was any indication. The firemen/paramedics were putting a sheet
over the guy as I went past.

What a fucked start to the day for an awful lot of people.

betty

 

D'oh! Silly me.... bleedin' obvious really...

betty

 

If you factor in Taxes on fuel, GST on the purchase of the car, as well as
taxes on all the other miriad things that are car-related, in three or four
years you will have contributed enough to pay for a parking spot.

Theo

 

Are you for real?

Theo

 

In aus.motorcycles on 5 Mar 2007 17:04:45 -0800

Hey, I'm not a freeloading hippy, I'm a freeloading weirdo.

Zebee
- recumbent weirdo

 

With attitudes like that, its no wonder motorcyclist get a bad name.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

Oh, convenient snippage, Nev.....

Attitudes like what, Nev? I think you misunderstand (deliberately, if the
stuff you snipped is anything to go by - only keep as many words as will be
useful to you in an argument, is that it?)... are you having another go at
me? (Gee, that'd be unusual....) I wonder about you sometimes, coz you seem
to read stuff into posts that simply isn't there..... Let me spell it out
for you coz I think you're either selectively fucking argumentative, or just
plain thick sometimes. My attitude (Part 1) is this:

I hate the thought of ANYBODY dying on the road in the cold half-light of
pre-dawn (or any other time of day for that matter), surrounded by strangers
(or even loved ones - dying is dying, isn't it?). The thought of what goes
through the minds of the people who are with them in their last minutes,
frantically hoping they won't die, and wishing none of this was happening,
just fries my fuckin head.

What I said - and I'll say it again in simple English - is this:
Anybody riding along that bit of road when it's fucking dark (the street
lighting there is minimal) - have you ridden along that piece of road, Nev?
I do it every bloody morning of the week - is taking their life in their
hands.

You think I'm having a go at pushies? Not bloody likely, even before seeing
that guy stretched out on the road with the fireys shaking a sheet over
him. I don't know if he was a pushie or a motorcyclist or a bloody
pedestrian - we get a lot of fitness fiends walking along there in the early
morning as well - but the foot sticking out from under the sheet was wearing
what looked like a cyclist's shoe, and his legs were bare - so FWIW, I'm
assuming he was the pushie rider. The motorbike parked by the side of the
road may have been involved, or may have pulled over to assist - don't
know - I went round the block and was going to stop and see if anything was
needed, but by the time I got back the fire engine and the guys with the
sheet were there, and anybody else on the scene would probably have
cluttered things up. Not that there's a damned thing I could've done anyway,
apart from saying "there there" and offering to go back half a kilometre to
my house to make coffee...

And Part 2:

As I said, that fairly poorly lit stretch of road is frequented by all
sorts - cars, buses, motorbikes, pushies, early-morning power-walkers,
dog-walkers... and my heart has been in my mouth on occasions when I've seen
pushies powering along there in the pre-dawn - and some of them are fucking
wearing BLACK gear as though they're off to a bloody Melbourne cafe for
brekkie! You tell me that's not taking your life in your hands? (Also, we're
talking about a lot of dickhead Canberra drivers who don't even look - at
least as a motorcyclist I have enough built-in paranoia to be on the lookout
for other vulnerable critters as well as myself!)

I'm not sure which "attitude" you were referring to, Nev - but if it was
mine, writing about an incident that knocked the crap out of me on my way to
work this morning, and which I wrote about shortly afterwards - once again,
pull your bloody head in, coz you're totally fucking wrong.

betty

 

You reckon that's bad - how about the bloody potholes - they turn up,
sit there and get in the way, and as soon as they get fixed you gotta
clean all the bitumen off yer bike.

Not only do they get free road use they have the hide to piss off with
some of it. Just completely wrong, I reckon.