Well since nobody could tell me how big and how good the Rjays explorer rack bag was i went and got one from bikebiz for 110 bucks.. From everybody telling me it is too big, i dont think it is, when it is not expanded it seems to be the same size as most other bags.. The built quality isnt that flast, with one zipper seems defective so i cant use the bumbag, might fix that. a few loose threads but it has the hard inserts on it and it looks and feels like a top box.. has lots of usefull pockets in it and a built in rain cover.. Cant wait to try it out on the open road and SMEE remember the spud :-) [URL]http://members.dodo.net.au/radburn/bag.jpg[/URL] [URL]http://members.dodo.net.au/radburn/cbrbag.jpg[/URL] [URL]http://members.dodo.net.au/radburn/spud1.jpg[/URL]