Rivet vs Clip Link Chains

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by batfastard, May 13, 2007.

  1. batfastard

    batfastard Guest

    I've noticed on Ebay lately that there are a few 530 sized X-ring
    chains on the market.

    I've contacted some of the sellers, and most of them appear to have
    'master clip' links rather than rivets.

    Now unless clip technology has taken a bit of a leap in recent years,
    I'd have thought this would be a bit sus, what with most 1000cc+ bikes
    nowadays putting out 120+ hp at the rear wheel and god knows how much
    torque...

    I guess that if you a) did some safety wiring of the master clip, b)
    avoided burnouts/wheelies, and c) kept it under 110KM/H all the time
    you'd probably be ok.

    OR am I being a bit pessimistic? Are the modern clip type master
    links good for all the normal street use that big bikes get nowadays?


    BF.
     
    batfastard, May 13, 2007
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    MrMoped Guest

    You are being a tad pessimistic! There is nothing wrong with usin a master
    link with a clip. If they are fitted properly they do the job of securing
    the chain rather well, the problem is that some people don't fit them
    properly!

    There is very little sideways stress put on a chain link, most of the forces
    are acting directly on the roller and pin. When you calculate it all out
    you'll find that only a poofteenth of a nanosquat of force actually acts to
    push the link sideways.

    HP at the rear wheel, cc of the bike, burnouts/wheelies/stoppies/power
    slides, speed, torque (including mindless babbling) really don't affect the
    clip that much.

    So if the clip is in good nick (hasn't lost any of its springiness) and is
    fitted properly it should work well but I'm of the opinion that using a
    spring clip merely introduces another potential problem that I really don't
    need into my riding. I had used spring clips for donkeys years both on the
    track and road until rivet links became all the rage and I've also lost
    spring clips and now I won't use anything else but rivets. Slap on the link,
    a couple of taps with a ball-pein hammer to deform the end and viola! you're
    away. I have never had a rivet clip fail.
     
    MrMoped, May 13, 2007
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    David Robley Guest

    Coopers, thanks

    I believe it works out to around two thirds of five eighths of eff-all :)



    Cheers
     
    David Robley, May 13, 2007
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    justAL Guest

    It's Whitworth....NO ONE KNOWS!

    justAL

    Beer!


     
    justAL, May 13, 2007
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    Toosmoky Guest

    Personally, I use rivets and have splashed out for a proper riveting tool.
     
    Toosmoky, May 13, 2007
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    MrMoped Guest

    I believe I'll share a Redback or three thanks!

    Geez! You might want to be a little more specific :)) Would you like that
    as The British Standard Whitworth (BSW), British Standard Fine (BSF),
    British Standard Parallel Pipe (BSPP), and British Standard Tapered Pipe
    (BSTP) or British Association (BA)?

    Oh yes, I ride british bikes so it makes perfect sense to me - not!
     
    MrMoped, May 13, 2007
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    Marty H Guest

    one side of the link clip is sharper than the other, make sure this
    goes on the outside, use a dollop of silicon on the link to both aid
    its installation and to keep it there...

    but I use rivet chains cos I like to be sure...

    personally I would be more suss of chains on ebay than the joining
    method

    Marty
     
    Marty H, May 13, 2007
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    loftboy Guest

    All this, and yet they wonder why the sun has set on the Empire.
    None of this new fangled white-mans magic metric stuff for you then
    :)
     
    loftboy, May 13, 2007
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    BT Humble Guest

    I'll second the silicon idea - I lost a few clips from my GPX250 until
    I started doing that. I only ever broke 1 clip link though - most of
    the time when it came time to remove the chain I had to hammer the
    bloody things out!

    (I usually carry one as a spare in case of a chain breakage whilst on
    the road).
    I'm sure they'd be satisfactory for a CT90... ;-)


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, May 14, 2007
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    MrMoped Guest

    Speak up laddie!! I can't quite hear you :))
     
    MrMoped, May 14, 2007
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    Marty H Guest

    sure..... but would they be worthy of a CT90 ?

    MH
     
    Marty H, May 14, 2007
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    Moike Guest

    .... and sometimes one of the right size.........

    Moike
     
    Moike, May 15, 2007
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    boyds Guest

    I stopped using any type of joining link. Shafts are sooo much
    smoother, and cheaper, and cleaner...

    SteveB
     
    boyds, May 15, 2007
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    Mad-Biker Guest

    Half a Fairy Fart of course


     
    Mad-Biker, May 16, 2007
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    stuart t Guest

    I've had a Regina gold chain break a joining link once. It was a clip
    type link and it broke just one side. I checked the bike over after a
    weekend away and was more than a little horrified to find the broken
    link. Don't know how far I'd gone on it.
    Also found the old Suzi GS would continually fling the spring clips
    off its 620 joining link. It never spat the side link of the chain
    off, it was happy enough without the spring clip. I replaced it once,
    but it spat the new one off as well so I just lockwired it instead.
    Come to think of it, it was a touch dodgey................
     
    stuart t, May 17, 2007
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