Rip-Off UK Fuel Prices

Read it again. The opening paragraph establishes that in 1970
beer cost today's equivalent of £5 a pint relative to our
disposable income at that time. Hence if we were to use beer
prices as a loose measure of income then in real terms average
wages have doubled since then.

riccip

 

LOL! Rememer back in 1997, Blair's promise of "We're going to
hit the ground running". Shame the 'chute didn't open.

That ban is already a done deal policywise. They are treading
carefully to sound out the popularity of the measure.

It's not about leadership it's about votes. Blair's rank and file
hate him as much as we do but will support him as long as they
are winning at the polling booths. If he loses the next general
election he'll be removed faster than Nadia's cock.

riccip

 

Fried Chicken.

 

And there's the rub - you want 'strong government', as long as it does
things you agree with.

"You people make me sick".

 

Every government in my lifetime has promised to cut waste in Govt
spending. None have managed it. I can't understand why but it seems
waste will not be cut!!!!!

 

Well that's my life ruined.
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riccip

 

No.

I could accept and respect a government that made a decision I did not
like provided it was consistent, open, and honest.

Everyone knows the only reason we went into Iraq in such a big way was
to suck up to the Americans. And with so many people having negative
views about Europe Tony Blair found himself between a rock and a hard
place. They should have made much more effort to sell the European idea
which brings us right back to indecisive government.

 

Blair believes he is moderating the excesses of the US leadership. I
actually think he may well be doing so in his woolly Christian democrat
way.

Christian fundamentalists: These people are not jumper wearing objects
of fun; they are going to bring about the judgement day they dream about.

 

Perhaps Blair believed it would do for him what the Falklands war
did for Thatch. Not a decision he'd have taken lightly nor
without some prompting. Clearly he listened to the wrong advice.

riccip

 

["Followup-To:" header set to uk.rec.motorcycles.]
Champ was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

And everybody...

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

The fact that your[1] moral compass is in dire need of a service
doesn't give you the right to try and bomb somebody else back into the
stone age, no matter how good your intentions are. I wouldn't be
surprised if Pol Pot and friends also thought they were acting in
their peoples' best interest.

AO-friggin'-L. I come from a more or less atheist background but I
have had a lot to do with people who call themselves Christian,
ranging from mild to wild. I must say that the more exposure I get to
the fundamentalist ones the more I try to avoid them.

[1] Well, not yours; you know what I mean...

 

sweller wrote

Ain't dat de troof.

 

Well they'd all know it f they listened to Tony Benn

 

It's actually very difficult to get true congruence in trade matters
without an awful lot of the other stuff that people seem to take exception
to.

 

I don't think that was the case. For one thing, Blair was not in anything
like the same position that Thatcher was: he was basically well liked - at
least compared to his opposition, which is all that matters - before the
war.

 

I would agree that was probably his original intent. I think he may have
suceeded to a degree but I think that once he'd made the initial decision
to support Bush he was a bit stuck.

 

I am another who subscribes to this theory.

But I think Bliar was looking to mark his placing in history as a
*great* PM (a la Churchill & Thatcher) so needed his war. He cocked
up royally of course.

 

I don't think its the case; in fact I think its a rather facile argument.


Greatness is not measured in how many wars you've won or had (cf. Major).
Also bear in mind Blair has already sent the troops out on more than one
occasion. So needs no more reason to prove he has the bollocks to do so.

He hasn't cynically engaged on these 'crusades' to shore up his
popularity. Firstly he didn't need to and secondly Blair actually
believes he is doing the right thing morally [1] both at home and abroad.


[1] It would be safe to say that many disagree on this point.

 

Balls to you, then.

I've seen enough of the dull-witted legislation coming from the EU to know
that it's a PITA, and I suspect that the whole system is fundamentally
flawed, what with an unelected (by the people, at least) commission running
things.

and yes, I'm quite aware that our lot add their own dull-witted legislation
on top, but that don't make it right or better.

to take a single case: the whole legal system in France is differently
organised, compared to ours. If we're to have a genuine european union,
then will we adopt their system, or they ours, or will a third system be
invented to the confusion of all and the profit of lawyers?

 

You seem to be at odds with yourself. Unless you meant to say
pro-European. I'm really neither anti nor pro. I just think we need to
decide what we are and go with it.

Heaven forfend. I respected her strength but not her policies.

 

Again you are mixing your points. I agree wholeheartedly with your
point about unelected commissioners, but how should we deal with it?
Cut ourselves off from and alienate our mainland neighbours, or stick in
there and change it from the inside, with the help of everybody else who
thinks it stinks!

So you shoot yourself in the foot by mentioning it ;-) No change there,
eh!

Nothing whatsoever to do with the EU, and I agree with you in any case.
Read the "constitution", or just the BBC FAQ, and you will see the
answer to your question. But again, what do we do about it? Stand on
the sidelines and wave our Little Britain flag, or work from the inside
to change it?

PS. I voted against the Common Market in the 1970s, but now we're in I
want it to succeed.

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