Rip off Britain!!

I had exactly the same thought, but then thought about headlight units,
so I cancelled the post and let him off.

 

There are still exise duties on a variety of products sold between
european states--

 

Anything coming into the country that is made outside will
be taxed, you can be sure of that!

I would think that is pennies rather than pounds. Certainly
on the 748 the different between a RHD and LHD headlight was
the deflector plate inside the dipped beam unit which you
could unscrew and turn around from one to the other.

The Hypermotard LCD is programmed in English and mph, but
chances are they're all "universal" but locked to a region
at the factory. The handbooks are in multi-language and are
at least an inch thick each.

The only additions for the American market are a couple of
reflectors on the front forks and some additional emissions
gubbins for California, but again I can't see it adding
40% to the cost.

It would be interesting to see what TOG says about the cost
of Italy>UK via road compares to Italy>US via container.

 

That's one...

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Bugger, still only one. ;-)

(Seriously, the US used to have requirements on its machines that
made them different from other markets -- reflectors, the 85-mph speedo for
a while, and most famously the left-hand gearshift. I _have_ seen a
Ducati waith a serious bodge to get US-spec shifting, and ISTR a Suzuki
that had a double-ended gear-lever shaft. How much this has all been
homogenised, I don't know. Left-shift, right-brake is now standard;
speedos are again unrestricted but there's still the mph|km/h problem.)

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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

VAT will need to be paid, one end or the other, but
we were talking about import duty, which has been, TTBOMK,
abolished between EU states.

I might just count that as two...

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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

don't forget the different tyre bias and suspension set-up for RHD -v-
LHD road cambers.

 

Vat is the biggest revenue grabber as the customer pays in full on the
total price and the supply chain pay it on the labour cost and profit
margin (having claimed back the vat on materials ) this adds far more
than 17.5% to the cost to the goods bought at factory gate prices

When the likes of ducati ship to the states no vat is applicable
throughout the supply chain . Apart from the cheap labour thats why
many manufacturers are now scourcing and building outside the EU

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Yes they do its a cumalative tax on the labour and profits

Here a quick demo

my supplier for counters buys in his materials builds the product and
sells it to me , on that counter he charges me vat , he claims vat
relief on the material cost so he makes a net contribution on the
profit and labour

lets say he charges me £1175.00 (1000 plus vat)
material costs £587.50 (500 plus vat)

thats a net payment to CE of 87.50 my supplier would make


i sell the counter on for £2350 (2000.00 plus vat)

Cost to me £1175 (1000 plus vat)

Thats a net payment to the CE £175.00 i have to make after offsetting
my purchase cost


on that counter the CE have made £262.25 in vat

now imagine a normal supply chain where thier are thousands of
component manufacturers and suppliers all dealing with each other and
in this case ducati it doesnt take long before the costs escalate

Now if the goods are being made for outside the EU then with creative
company setups no vat will be paid , tax may be paid in the importing
country depending on thier revenue system

 

Well they may pay it, but it doesn't cost them anything, so adds
nothing to the final cost.

 

Correct however if they were registered then the will have added vat
to the cost , reclaimed what they had already paid then paid the
difference to the treasury on the labour and profit on the product


Every time a markup is applied the government take a slice
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Indeed. What you said up there, however, was "Vat is the biggest
revenue grabber as the customer pays in full on the
total price and the supply chain pay it on the labour cost and profit
margin (having claimed back the vat on materials ) this adds far more
than 17.5% to the cost to the goods bought at factory gate prices."

This, as Simian implied, is patently untrue. What it adds is *not* far
more than 17.5%, it is exactly 17.5%. The only exception will be in
those (rare) instances, probably at the beginning of the supply chain,
where a small supplier is not VAT registered. This will add a little,
not a lot, to the 17.5%.

Remember that it is a Value Added Tax, and that the intention (and
usually the effect) is to tax only the added value at each stage, so
that the total tax paid ends up as the tax rate times the eventual
price.

 

FFS, even I can understand this, and my maths is so bad it's legendary.