Riding Time, % speaking

I've read some to say, they rarely drive a cage. They insenuate, they
Ride, the majority of their time, be it, for transportation, or
whatever(!)

I'm gonna try to come up with some %'s, that the different ones of us,
might fall into.

Now, I think, that the 1%'ers, are the ''rough & tuff'' so called outlaw
Bikers, eh? (I think this's the deal?)
They supposedly, Ride 99%,compared to Driving, because they are ''Die
Hard, & hard cored'' Bikers. Some of them claim they don't even own a
cage of any type.
They ride 360 days a year,no matter the weather. I read where they are
unemployed for the most part. Some may know alot more about this ''%er''
group of Bikers, than I. (I may be all wrong above)

(now),First I will attempt to identify myself as maybe, a 35%'er, Rider.
Lets see, I think that should be in comparison to Driving.Okay.

That means, I ride a motorcycle about a third of the time, for pleasure
or transportation.

If one considers him self as a 50%'er Rider, it means he ‘‘Drives
and Rides’’ an equal amount of the time.

Lets see, I think I read somewhere, that an average person Drives 12 to
15,000 miles yearly.
So, the 50%'er Rider, rides about 6,000
to 7,500 miles yearly.

My Riding milage, based on the above info, would be about 4 to 5,000
miles per year. Now, this might be stretching it for me, cuz that would
be approximatley
500 a month...hummm, Oh well. that's an average, I feel better. <g>

Clearly I'm just speculating, and stabbing at an idea, that crossed my
feeble little mind. <G>

So, some might be 60, 75, or 90%'er Riders in this group, we'll see.
B4, you spout off, calculate, first! <g>

Is Riding a Sport with You?
Is it a Hobby?
Is it a Life style?
WhatCHA think?
--------‘‘bjay’’-----

 

Heyya BJay. I just ticked over 70k miles on the bike during the last year
and a half. During that same period I've put 5k miles on the car.

Calculation:
70/75*100 = 93.3%

 

Hmm... I've never owned a car, so I guess I'm 100%. Unless you want to
count the occasional taxi trip when things are too icy or drunk to
ride.

-Gniewko

 

Which begs the question from the original post....

Are you employed?

If so, self employed or working for someone else?

How long have you been at your current job?

Regards,
JaxSeagull

 

Past year:

Harley 10,000 miles
Other bikes 2,000 miles
Car 4,000 miles
Truck 4,000 miles
Total 20,000 miles, 60% two wheels, 40% four wheels.

I could work on that, I suppose, but the problem is that as much as I love
riding, I also love driving my car and my truck.

 

I've been working for somebody else for the past year, and doing
freelance work for a couple of years before that. I don't think I'd
qualify as an outlaw biker, though.

-Gniewko

 

Isn't that the purpose of having a shop equipped with $10,000 worth of wood
machining equipment akin to the Yankee Workshop? Explaining to the SWMBO
one can save money on milling free wood?

 

‘‘BJayKana wrote’’

I've read some to say, they rarely drive a cage. They insenuate, they
Ride, the majority of their time, be it, for transportation, or
whatever(!)
I'm gonna try to come up with some %'s, that the different ones of us,
might fall into.---phoenix responds--
Past year:
Harley 10,000 miles
Other bikes 2,000 miles
Car 4,000 miles
Truck 4,000 miles
Total 20,000 miles, 60% two wheels, 40% four wheels.
I could work on that, I suppose, but the problem is that as much as I
love riding, I also love driving my car and my truck.
---(Phoenix)--

---‘‘bjay here’’--
Now, here is an uusual ''poster''.
Phoenix admits, that he loves driving his car and truck. Very unusual,
that he calls the two vehicles by their ordinary name, and not call em'
the famous term "cages"

That tells me, he's just an honest ole boy.
I'm not saying any others who responded, arent as honest, no way am I
saying that.
Don't get excited. I am not doubtful, with any of ya'll who responded,
by giving personal Riding %'s vs. Driving %'s.

I hope we hear from more! 2 me, it's interesting to know the Riding
habits of folks that we correspond with in these kinda groups.

'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--

 

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I've been working for somebody else for the past year, and doing
freelance work for a couple of years before that. I don't think I'd
qualify as an outlaw biker, though.
-Gniewko----‘‘bjay’’----
I dont imagine you qualify, but, you're the only one that knows, eh?
Do you ride back and 4th to do your thing as a freeLance kinda guy?
Are you Law-A-biding, for the most part, just kidding.......<G>

 

It's never too drunk to ride!

And you live in Manhattan so not owning a car is the norm vs. the
oddity.

 

Odinn, when I was a kid we always drove to Canada once a year to visit my
mom's relatives. My dad would load the car with 4-5 boards of black walnut
from a mill up there for small woodworking projects. After many years of
this, the basement was full of end pieces, small but good enough for some
type of project. After I married and we bought the house, our goal was to
clean out all that useless scrap from the basement.
Do you know what a great fire kiln dried black walnut made in the wood
burner? Cherry, african rosewood, teak, etc., he collected it all.
Sorry... We didn't know any better, then.
Sue
Minocqua, WI

"Do what you want and say what you feel because those that mind, don't
matter and those that matter, don't mind". ~Dr. Seuss

 

Oh you foolish, foolish girl!

 

"Shadowfax" <> wrote in message > Oh you foolish, foolish girl!


I said I'm sorry.... Promise I won't do it again. As an act of penance, we
salvaged some cedar off a 100+ year old barn and gave it away to crafters.
I did manage to keep a couple of the longer pieces of teak and have them rip
cut into 1/4 strips for picture frames. Poor job on my part with the
mitered corners but I still have then and use them.
Sue
Minocqua, WI

"Do what you want and say what you feel because those that mind, don't
matter and those that matter, don't mind". ~Dr. Seuss

 

What, are you some kind of crypto-homo, BJay? Next you'll be wanting to
compare DICK sizes...

There are some wretched motorcyclists that rely upon motorcycles for
their transportation 100% of the time. They are known as "committed
bikers", possibly because they need to be certified and committed to an
institution. A motorcycle is all they can afford. They are usually
lonesome losers, whose girlfriend is the centerfold of a girlie
magazine and their hand...

You're talkin' out your ASS, son. 1% is an attitude, a life-style, it's
NOT about how many miles a biker rides!

Do your homework, before you start blasting BULLSHIT all over the NG.
Comparing how many miles you ride every year to justify your yuppified
existence doen't have diddly squat to do with what being a 1%-er
means...

I worked with WW2 vets in the aerospace industry in the 1960's that
rode and partied with the Hell's Angeles, Satan's Slaves, Straight
Satans, Galloping Gooses, Booze Fighters, etc. A Goose lived next door
to me. He rode a chopper. HD panhead of course...

After WW2 a bunch of returning vets came home to the country they'd
risked their lives fighting for and had no jobs to return to, in spite
of the promises made. The economy collapsed after the war, they were
jobless...

But some of them had ridden Harleys and Indians in the Army, and they
found they could buy war surplus Harleys and Indians really cheap. They
did what hot rodders had done, they stripped all the excess bullshit
off the "garbage wagons" and "chopped" them to the minimum and they
went out and partied and screwed women and swapped the ones they'd used
with other bikers and generally raised hell and put a brick under it,
and they got ran out of towns all over the country...

(The town I live in had a reputation for being a biker town clear up
into the late 1970's, with six bars on the Main Street and hookers
swinging their purses on the corners. At least it wasn't San Francisco.
Church type do-gooders ran the bikers out and now the whole towns has
become Generica, it has no character, you can't tell where you are, it
could be anywhere without character. There's a church every quarter of
a mile...

But, I digress from what a 1%-er is. The hard partying WW2 vets who
rode together were having fun, but they were worrying the straight
arrow citizens, they were having too much fun, they were smiling a lot,
they were free, and you know how the line went in "Easy Rider,"
who said it Dennis or Peter or Jack, I disremember, but one of them
said that a square-shooter looks at a biker and he sees a free man and
that scares him...

And, along about this time, the American Motorcycle Association still
thought that motorcycles could associate with each other and
the AMA was trying to organize all the motorcycle riders into road
riding clubs where they would dress up as police ossifers or dress up
as cowboys and they'd have a judging and award trophies for the
cleanest shiniest *garbage wagon* and the best dressed drugstore cowboy
couple or crypto cop dreaming about shoving his nightstick up
somebody's ass...

The alternate lifestyle for motorcycle riders envisioned by the AMA was
dirt track racing, scrambles, short track, half mile flat track, and if
you weren't dressing up like Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, or the
above-mentioned Weirdo Cop, you were supposed to spend your weekends
tearing up the dirt tracks, partying wasn't even conceived up the AMA
needle dicks and tight asses...

But WW2 vets and younger guys coming into motorcycle riding still
wanted to party. They were blue collar working class people, most of
them believed in God, but they weren't frickin' *Puritans*, they wanted
to party and have fun and they got together with their brothers and
people they considered as brothers and they partied and raised hell...

And some of the motorcycle riders took their AMA patches and sewed them
on the seat of their dirty levis so the AMA would be closest to where
the sun didn't shine and they kept on partying, and uptight citizens
complained about the gangs of deliquent bikers having too much fun, so
some official pulled the statistic right out of his ass that "only 1%
of all bikers are really BAD"...

So the response from the bikers was, "Yeah, and WE are that 1%", and
little 1% patches starting getting sewn onto the front of levi cutoffs
that had three piece patches sewn on the backs...

More "Lonesome Loser" imagery prompted some lone riders to wear a cut
off jacket with "No Club" and "Independant Rider" patches sewn to the
back. They got beat up a lot, had to be cautious where they rode, if
they wanted to fly those colors. They wanted the image without the
brotherhood...

If you want to see some pictures and interviews with REAL BIKERS of the
mid-1960's google up "Danny Lyon" and his photo essay about "The
Motorcycle Riders". I ran across that while looking for books in the
local library about motorcycles and found it categorized under
"motorcycles" and "deviant lifestyles".

It's a classic book, one in good condition would go for around $175 on
eBay...

The Chicago Outlaws that Danny Lyon rode with in the late 1960's were a
whole lot less deviant than Hunter S. Thompson's Oakland Hell's Angels.
The Chicago Outlaws were blue collar workers what believed in God and
brotherhood and partying and having fun...

But an image for the Outlaw Biker was evolving, on the movie screen
with Marlon Brando's "The Wild One", and on the radio with the pop hits
about "black denim trousers and motorcycle boots and a black leather
jacket with an eagle on the back", and another one about the "leader of
the pack" who thrilled high school girls...

One effete Hollywood guy I talked to said that black leather jacket
image of "the terror of highway 101" was what got him started in
motorcycle riding in the 1950's...

But then it starts getting kinky. Do a google search for Allen
Ginsberg's banned poem "Howl!" and you'll find a line that suggests
that intellectuals in San Franscisco "squealed with delight" while
being buggered by "saintly motorcyclists" who were obviously the
Oakland Hell's Angels, the archetypal 1% motorcycle gang...

And then in the late 1960's, we started seeing the classic biker movies
that inspired all the RUB's of today to buy Harleys and dress like
Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper and all the other "wild ones",
and the gonzo journalist Hunter S. Thompson (a friend of Allen
Ginsburg, the alcoholic Jack Kerouac, and William S. Burroughs, who
murdered a gay man for making unwanted homosexual advances) wrote his
classic "Hell's Angels" book where the Hell's Angels denied being
homosexuals, that they only kissed each other on the mouth to shock the
straight citizenry...

HST described how a gay motorycle club would follow the HA's around
to all the runs and biker bars on *pink* BMW's, hoping to find "rough
trade", i.e., a man who might beat them up after submitting to their
ministrations...

But, after riding and partying with the hard-living, hard-drinking
woman-swapping Hell's Angels for a year, HST apparently applied for the
coveted on-his-knees position in front of one of the HA's and they beat
the crap out of him and ejected him from the bar. HST claimed to be too
drunk to remember the proposition...

So the biker image evolved from a bunch of hard partying blue collar
workers into a gay leather bar image that Al Pacino could play in one
of his movies. And that's what really makes RUB's look silly,
masquerading as a gay man's dream of "rough trade", with all the
leather and cutoff levi jacket with an eagle on the back, but with NO
three piece patch...

If some REAL 1%-ers ever saw one of these RUB's riding through *their*
turf with a little 1% patch sewn to his immaculately clean levi cutoff,
they's stop him and cut his 1% patch off and send him on his way with a
few bruises and scrapes to show for his effrontery...

Let me re-iterate, 1% is an attitude, a life-style, it's NOT about how
many miles a biker rides!

 

‘‘’’ writes message in response )

-- MR.‘‘krusty Kritter’’----
wrote a nice historical ''piece'' about the outlaw motorcyclist.---bjay here----
Well, KK, buddy, what-a-Mpressive
(article, almost). I knew most of your espressed facts. I imagine most
of us, have seen what you explained, on the history channel. I, for one,
have it recorded, on VCR. And I commend you for stating your comments
fairly accurate.I think I said, that the 1%'er, rode mostly for transportation, and not
sport. like you and me, eh?
I actually realize that it is a ''socalled Life style'', but, in
particular, I forgot to say that.
Most of my ''post'', Krusty, was aimed at
hearing from folks in here,about their
''Biker'' life styles.
Some responded with some impressive riding statistics.
Ole Krusty One, you failed to mention your Riding Habits, do you care to
share some with us, a little bit of your riding Xperiences and milage
logged?
-----------I snipped down to Krusty Krtter's last
paragraph----------------below---



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If some REAL 1%-ers ever saw one of these RUB's riding through *their*
turf with a little 1% patch sewn to his immaculately clean levi cutoff,
they's stop him and cut his 1% patch off and send him on his way with a
few bruises and scrapes to show for his effrontery...
Let me re-iterate, 1% is an attitude, a life-style, it's NOT about how
many miles a biker rides! ‘‘krusty kritter’’

 

I used to ride for a living, I used to ride for fun, I used to race for
thrills.

Now I just ride for fun and transportation but primarily because it
makes transportation fun.

I'm an easy 96-97% at the moment, I dont do ice.

Summer will be 100%.

The other 4-5 % of the time I borrow my wifes car

As the stabil in my last car was starting to go bad, I just went ahead
and sold the car.

Also paying $1200 a year insurance for an idle car was just good
motorcycling money going to waste.

Martin

 

---‘‘ (durkster)--’’

---responds---
I used to ride for a living, I used to ride for fun, I used to race for
thrills.
Now I just ride for fun and transportation but primarily because it
makes transportation fun.
I'm an easy 96-97% at the moment, I dont do ice.
Summer will be 100%.
The other 4-5 % of the time I borrow my wifes car
As the stabil in my last car was starting to go bad, I just went ahead
and sold the car.
Also paying $1200 a year insurance for an idle car was just good
motorcycling money going to waste.
--(Martin)--


~~~~~~~~bjay~~~~~~
I can appreciate that. Some are Riders, and some of us, Ride....heehee
anyway, I know a couple fellers, who ride their Bike to work and suff.
With the way of gas prices, it's a very good reason to ride daily.

Martin, about your auto insurance premium being $1200 yearly, that seems
a lot one for car,too me
I have three vehicles, and mine is not quite that espensive.One of my
vehicles is insured for Liability only, but the Truck and Windstar is
fully covered, over here in NE Texas.......bjay

'Ya'll take care'' --BJAY--

 

Very wrong. It's got nothing at all to do with how much you ride. I put
many more miles on my bike than cars do. I'm a "99%er". So are you.

1%er was a term coined after a gathering of the American Motorcycle
'Gypsy Tour' on July 4, 1947. The 3000 riders descended on
Hollister, California which was sponsoring a 'dirt hill climb'.
When violence broke out the Motorcycle Association issued a statement
saying that 99% of riders were respectable, pleasure riders and the
other one-percent were troublemakers. Since then, groups like the Hells
Angels have referred to themselves as the 'one-percenter'

Rayvan "99%er"