Riding a CG125 using "the force" alone.

OK the clocks have changed and I'm now travelling to/from work in the dark -
it is now at this point that I have fully appreciated how crap the headlight
is on the CG125. As soon as the streetlighting goes so does any chance of
seeing further ahead of me than I can reach with an out-stretched hand. I
thought - why don't I get a halogen bulb - the Haynes says I need a 35/35W
bulb, but no base type details - same for the Honda parts manual. The bulb
itself proudly declares it's a 35/35W but nothing else. It's not a base
type I recognise - does anyone reading this know what the bulb type is for a
CG125 BR-S? Then I can try and get a couple by mail-order.

Cheers
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AndyD
CG125

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Perhaps someone hereabouts knows if it will push a 55/60 Halogen bulb along?
If so a Cibie conversion would be good.

 

Why not just buy a decent torch and strap it to the bars?

Failing that, walk - it's about the same speed.

 

I've not seen one but would guess it has a Bosch P45t base.

Which is best described as a bulb (either a globe of or a halogen
envelope) having three spade type terminals coming out the base of the
bulb cap, looking like this from above |_| , and a large (45mm-ish)
stepped flange with notches to locate the bulb in the correct position.

Similar to these
http://www.classicandvintagebulbs.com/page2.html

these bulb diagrams may help
http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffybulbdiagrams.htm

This place lists an adapter to allow fitting of P43 bulbs to P45
fittings, which may improve the availiable range.
http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/goffybulbs.htm

The more readily available P43 is similar but has three flat legs to
locate the bulb instead of the stepped flange.

A search on "6v P45t halogen bulb 35W" turns up quite a few specialist
suppliers that may be able to help.

 

Thats the Brazil model, it needs a *3 lug pre-focus* type bulb 12v,
there was a halogen bulb of this type but I have no idea if it is
still available.


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Andy was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

AFAIK they're the standard automotive 35/35W bulb that Honda has been
using since the earlier 70s, if not before. I'm think that Vehicle
Wiring Services do sell a compatible Halogen bulb - have a Google for
their website (their whole catalogue is available online) as I CBA to
dig out their current catalogue from my heap of other catalogues.

 

These may be what Timo means

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-1/lights-1.html

 

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-1/lights-1.html

and this..

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/lights-1/lights-1.html

 

sweller was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

Not quite, although the OP might find a suitable insert
there. Actually it appears from looking at their bulb section that I
confused the 35/35W bulb with the P45t. You can get an H4 one for the
latter, but not the former.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Andy said:

http://www.ishop.co.uk/ishop/884/shopscr222.html

The mutt's nuts. Halfords used to do them but can't find them on their
site. I saw these in use on a Fazer and the difference was staggering.

 

They still do them, they are quite good, I have got the round version
of that make now fitted on the Virago, useful for reminding oncoming
cagers that they have left their main beam lights on

But we are talking CG125 here, their is a slight problem with
alternator power output, ie not enough power, I doubt if there is
enough power for a standard 55/60w halogen unless you replaced most of
the other lights with custom style LED's to conserve power.


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Hey you have the germ of a plan. LED bulb conversions consume 20% Vs the
filament type, I think??

I just checked the Demon Tweeks catalogue, Cibie still do conversions 5 3/4
and 7 inch as well as an H4 in a spotlight type shall of 180mm.

 

Hog said....

Stick a 350LC pattern headlight on, far better beam and a H4 bulb. 25
quid normally from most bike shops.

 

You mean better than a Cibie or better than the standard CG?? The Cibie unit
is about £25 but one would need clips or similar to mount it.
The concave Cibie conversion was the best alteration I ever made to the
RD250E.

Something along the Cibie line will feature on the 2004 Gixxer-Reborn I
expect
<blocks PIAA site at firewall>

Hella now do an HID Projector dual beam. £322 unfortunately.

 

Depends on how its done, cheap circuitry may use voltage dropping
resistors which would consume greater power than a electronic option,
if you changed the indicators as well to use the lowest power option
an electronic control would have to be fitted instead of the standard
indicator relay, and don't forget the front (side) light, speedo
illumination light and main beam indicator could be done and would all
save a few watts.

Probably be cheaper to have the alternator rewound to a higher output
if it is possible

Plenty of custom and replacement headlights that could easily be made
to fit, cheapest option would be a quick look down at the local bike
breakers.

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Before you make any decision it could be worth while checking out
Highway Hawk, they are expanding their lighting ranges and not all of
them are designed to fit on the standard cruiser.


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Thanks for the suggestions - I think I'll try led bulb conversions and a
replacement reflector/bulb mount assembly. Are the led conversions bright
enough though?
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AndyD
CG125

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Yes, the custom made brake/tail lights output about the same amount of
visible light as a conventional light unit.

The brake light also works faster than a filament light, the light is
almost instantaneous where as a normal lightbulb takes about a fifth
of a second for the filament to warm up enough for it to generate
light, it might not sound a lot but it is a visual difference.


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