Ride out complete: Being forced off the road by a car

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BGN, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. BGN

    BGN Guest

    The BotM Cinque Ports Tour went quite well.

    We had a chug around, I ran out of petrol, we all gave the unfortunate
    rider of a green Trophy a hand to pick his unhappy bike off of the
    side of the road, I threw tea all over myself and we ended the trip
    slightly earlier than planned in Samphire Hoe in Dover due to rain.

    I'm sure when Robbo, Whinging Courier and SeanH get back home they'll
    expand on it. I'm not in the right frame of mind or mood to go into
    it due to a rather bad experience on the way home which I will expand
    upon.

    I left the group on the motorway a bit early and went to Sainsbury's
    to buy Mother some chockies for Mother's Day and on my way home
    through Cheriton I turned left at the traffic lights to come down the
    road to the right of Saga in Enbrook and under the bridge there are a
    set of new temporary traffic lights while some work is going on off
    the junction. I filtered to the front and parked myself in front of a
    yellow car. The traffic lights changed to green a couple of seconds
    after I stopped.

    I set off and could see the car in my RHS mirror behind mirror behind
    me far, far too close. I accelerated a bit more to increase the
    distance in case he had started off more swiftly than he had wished to
    but he kept up with me and then moved into the right hand lane to
    overtake me. This wouldn't have been a problem normally, but this we
    were heading for the opposite set of traffic lights and the Yellow Car
    driver must have been REALLY upset that I filtered past him. He was
    to the right of me now and approaching the single lane near the works.

    He then started to move left, invading my protected space which would
    have forced me out of my lane. I couldn't mount the pavement as a
    junction was right in front of me on the left and there were cars over
    the white line. I stayed calm and kept the Red Mist away but my list
    of options and escape routes were disappearing too quickly as the
    single lane and traffic light over the other side of the road got
    closer. I doubted that a bike and a car would fit in that lane and
    slamming on the anchors wasn't an option due to the proximity of the
    Yellow Car and the spilt fuel mixed with the pouring rain. If he got
    any closer then we were going to make contact and due to the
    unreasonable behaviour of the car driver the Red Mist had already
    taken over his reasoning.

    I'm not sure whether the following was the best course of action or
    not but it was the only thing I could think of doing in the small
    space of time before we became one entity.

    I stayed where I was, just left of the centre of the lane where I'd
    been forced to inhabit by my would-be murderer and waited for the
    Yellow Car driver to make their decision. They would either have to
    hit me or force me off the road into the side of a car or into a load
    of pedestrians on the pavement, go head first into the other temporary
    traffic light on the right hand side of the road, or slam on his
    anchors and come in behind me.

    I'm quite pleased that Mr. Yellow Car decided upon the latter and we
    went past the obstruction. I opened up the throttle to get away from
    him and was actually quite fearful of checking in my mirror to see if
    the car was still there. Through the edge of my vision yellow was
    getting bigger.

    I'm not sure if you know my mirror arrangement - due to the set up of
    the ER-5 and my large frame I can't see anything through the mirrors
    unless it's right up my back side.

    I considered turning off left into unfamiliar roads in hope of getting
    away from him but given his unacceptable behaviour over the last few
    seconds I didn't fancy being caught at a dead-end and having to
    confront the driver.

    I carried on and went around the bends down past Enbrook Park much too
    fast considering the road condition (moss) and weather (heavy rain)
    and fuel spilt over the roads from the HGV centre nearby. As the
    seconds passed I had to make the decision of what to do when I got to
    the bottom of the hill and was greeted by a T-Junction. If I intended
    to go right (towards home) I would have to cross a lane of traffic
    which would mean I would have to stop with the Yellow Car up my arse.
    If I turned left then I could just barge into any traffic that may be
    in the left hand lane to make my escape.

    I didn't wish to lead him to my doorstep but the road looked clear so
    I turned right without signalling and was quite pleased that no
    traffic was coming in either direction. I looked in my RHS mirror and
    he was still at the junction signalling right.

    ****. If he's stopped for a car then there would be at least one
    between me and him so I gave it beans through to the Murco garage in
    hope of keeping him as far away as possible, past a front-facing
    Truvelo which I didn't feel safe in slowing down for but with his
    front number plate having to slow down might bring him to his senses.

    For good measure I overtook a few cars, filtered past another set of
    temporary traffic lights and skipped the roundabout which would bring
    me to my home and went through Hythe. I turned into the High Street
    near the canal next to Aldi but there was too much traffic coming the
    other way and stayed there for a minute. I was quite shaken up by
    this stage and wasn't paying attention to the traffic in the right
    hand lane while I was stationary waiting to turn right and I saw a
    yellow car gradually approaching in my mirror. It passed me on the
    left and I pissed off into the high street sharpish and then went home
    the back way more worried about the yellow car which didn't appear to
    have followed me.

    It's an experience I never wish to repeat again. A stupid situation
    to get into due to someone not wanting me to filter past them.

    Out of all the 'close calls' I've had I've never ever felt like this
    before. I feel quite empty and my heart is still beating far too
    fast. I've got pissed off when in the car before, but never has the
    Red Mist made me want to run anyone, let alone someone on a motorcycle
    off the road with a view to cause serious injury or even death.

    I've got some thinking to do. I don't know if I should inform the
    police about it or not - I've got no evidence - apart from a potential
    front-facing Truvelo shot of me speeding past it with the Yellow Car
    at least one or two cars behind. I didn't take down the registration
    number as I was in front of him, but I wonder if Yellow Car is going
    to register a complaint against me because of it. It would be utterly
    unfounded - I'm quite passive and accommodating but the whole thing
    has left me quite upset.
     
    BGN, Mar 25, 2006
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  2. BGN

    .. Guest

    <snip disaster epic>


    Well you do seem to attract attention for some reason.

    Scaring little boys in the toilets at the park, spilling hot tea down yer
    leathers, forgetting to take the bike out of 2nd gear, and running out of
    petrol less than 10 minutes into a ride out. Petrol Muppet number required I
    reckon.
    Wasn't your day was it?

    The ride back up the M20 was relatively good given the fairly clear roads
    and comfortable speed at 8000 rpm at which the Trophy just sings along.
    WC came past me at one point like I was back-pedalling and when we stopped
    at the petrol station he reckoned a comfortable 127 for a while then up to
    around 150 as he came past was the fun part.
    By that time his tyres had just started to get properly warm.

    Apart from all that I landed home without incident other than rain of the
    mild kind.
    174 mile round trip and thoroughly enjoyable.
    Sean did well to keep up at times and must have been redlining it quite a
    lot.

    We'll do the Sussex coast area next time and rope Muck into a run.
     
    .., Mar 25, 2006
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  3. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    you write these phrases without thinking don't you?
    As Mr Wesson has said this is something that happens. I would put it
    down to experience. Your fear and worry is in part because you feel
    someone tried to kill you and in part because your "riding space" has
    been invaded. From the driver's viewpoint you invaded his space. At
    that point it all got a bit territorial and then went silly.

    I have had a twat in a sports car try to push into incoming traffic as I
    filtered past him on a wide bend with hatching in the centre when he was
    in a slowish queue of traffic. The guy knew exactly what he was doing
    and what the consequences would be. Whether he was a murderer by your
    definition I don't know - he was certainly a very dangerous driver and a
    moron by my definition. He didn't succeed and I survived.

    By way of balance I have certainly filtered in a very aggressive and
    probably dangerous fashion in London traffic when racing a chap on a
    Ducati 748. It was huge fun and a great rush but I would imagine the
    car, van and bus drivers thought we were both complete cunts and liable
    to kill ourselves and various other people. I'm sure you will get to
    this stage at some point in your riding "career".

    I don't think any benefit will be gained from reporting any of your
    event to the police because you have no witnesses and it will be his
    word against yours and you can guarantee that he would seek to make you
    the guilty party by making exaggerated remarks about your riding. Use
    the experience to improve your reading of the road and your ability to
    identify moronic cunts in traffic queues.
     
    Paul Corfield, Mar 25, 2006
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  4. BGN

    BGN Guest

    No. I thought about it for several minutes and still agree with it.
    The term 'Road Rage' didn't occur to me until wessie mentioned it.
    It's certainly going down as experience but I wish it never happened.

    Food for thought.
     
    BGN, Mar 25, 2006
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  5. BGN

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    [Snipped Text]
    It does doesn't it. I had someone follow me home once, back when I had
    my CB750. I was tootling around Luton, filtering past the usual queues
    by Vauxhall (as it was then!), when a WVM (Escort) decided to race me to
    the gap that he'd left. He then actually tried to race me around the
    roundabout, and keep the gap closed on the other side - his bonnet was
    level with me, and he was less than a car length behind the car in
    front.

    Anyways, I got to a point on the road where it was wide enough for me to
    blast away past the traffic, so I stuck my arm out, right in front of
    the driver, and gave him the familiar 'go pleasure yourself' hand
    signal.

    Of course I hadn't left enough time to make a good escape, and he
    followed me home. I saw him pull up outside the neighbours, by which
    time I was getting off the bike. It was then that he saw a 6ft 1in, 16st
    leather clad biker staring at him, and he promptly drove away.

    It still left me shook up though.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Mar 25, 2006
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  6. BGN

    BGN Guest

    I've lost my bottle.

    I never thought this would happen.

    Even though it's pissing with rain I put on my waterproof stuff to go
    out for a ride to see if it made myself feel better but was afraid and
    I couldn't make myself turn the key. There's so much going through my
    head right now.

    I've no idea what I'm going to do.

    I think I've lost it.
     
    BGN, Mar 25, 2006
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  7. BGN

    .. Guest

    Right, get a cab organised, **** off down the pub with some mates and start
    again tomorrow when your heads clearer and you are more relaxed.
    Confrontations like those can usually upset people and tomorrow is another
    day.
     
    .., Mar 25, 2006
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  8. *Manly hug*

    You'll be fine when the sun makes an appearance.

    Si
     
    Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot, Mar 25, 2006
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  9. BGN

    darsy Guest

    what are you, some manner of poof?
     
    darsy, Mar 25, 2006
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  10. Stop being such a drama queen, wait for the sunshine and go for a ride.

    Seriously Nick - you really might benefit from some reflection on the
    number of incidents/close calls you've had and work out what the common
    denominator is.


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    DoetNietComputeren, Mar 25, 2006
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  11. BGN

    darsy Guest

    I can't recall any other newbie being such a fucking wuss.
    "get a sense of perspective".
     
    darsy, Mar 25, 2006
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  12. BGN

    JackH Guest

    I don't do as many miles as you do by bike, (mainly because I never keep a
    bike long enough to do serious miles), but of the ones I have done, I've
    never had anything like this tbh, and I tend to filter like that all the
    time.

    I had quite a few twats drive noticeably more aggressively around me when I
    had the Pan, than when I've had 600s and the like - probably mistook me for
    old bill, so fair game I suppose. ;-)

    But overall, I suspect the general lack of it might be in part because I
    tend to feck off quickly whatever, when the lights change.

    A chap of your size, not least when you're all suited and booted on the
    bike, should be enough to put most fuckwits off having a pop - they don't
    know that under that bulky rufty tufty exterior lies a big softy.

    Works for me anyway - anyone who has got out their pram or nearly had me off
    in the past has tended to shy away rather quickly when I've muttered a few
    choice words in their general direction... bar some pikey in an old BMW 5
    series last year when I was on the Fazer, and he appeared to have a problem
    with the fact I could leave him for dead on a dual carriageway.

    I knew I'd left a few large nuts and bolts in my pocket for a reason,
    anyway... ;-)

    Don't suppose you got a reg number, did you?

    I wouldn't worry about the **** complaining about your riding - he won't now
    the red mist has wafted off, and if anything he'll be worrying about you
    reporting him.
     
    JackH, Mar 25, 2006
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  13. BGN

    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Like the others say, get pissed tonight, and get on it tomorrow. We've
    all had plenty of incidents and near misses that make you think.

    I battle through the traffic on the A1 by Gateshead every day, and every
    day I visualise a cage changing lanes on me. I've certainly had near
    misses, but I still keep commuting every day.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Mar 25, 2006
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  14. BGN

    BGN Guest

    Pick on someone your own size.
     
    BGN, Mar 25, 2006
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  15. BGN

    Pip Guest

    Wot the Plastic Cloggie said.

    Get a grip, get some perspective.
     
    Pip, Mar 25, 2006
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  16. In uk.rec.motorcycles, BGN belched forth and ejected the following:
    But slowly.
    I nearly got taken off by a black in a stereotypical shit Nissan
    Blueburd.

    God, I fucking hate London drivers and London roads.
    We also now know that Robbo would **** her.
    And she TIUTA
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 25, 2006
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  17. BGN

    BGN Guest

    1) Throwing ER-5 down road 5 weeks after passing test due to
    ham-fisted riding with new tyres and general inexperience.
    2) Dropping ER-5 due to not putting the side stand down.
    3) Civic driver pulling out in front of me and another biker
    behind.
    4) Throwing ER-5 down road on new years day due to going too fast
    off of motorway and 'skipping' on a metal pole that had been
    dropped in the road.
    5) 'Road Rage' incident after upsetting yellow car driver by
    filtering past him.

    There's no obvious link between all five of them apart from me being
    present at all times, which I'm not disputing. If you look into any
    incidents that you have been involved in throughout your life you are
    likely to find that you are present at many of them too.
     
    BGN, Mar 25, 2006
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  18. BGN

    darsy Guest

    BGN wrote:

    [snip]
    why doesn't this crap happen to people who've been riding for a while?

    Either:

    a) you're exceptionally unlucky

    or

    b) you're are crap at riding a bike as any other newbie.

    get a grip, FFS.
     
    darsy, Mar 25, 2006
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  19. BGN

    .. Guest

    Says the multidrop driver without indicators or mirrors
    ;-)
    OI!
    I have standards you know!
    Who did/does?
     
    .., Mar 25, 2006
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  20. In uk.rec.motorcycles, .. belched forth and ejected the following:

    Double heh
    He does it on purpose, I reckon.
    Agreed. I spent most of my life in Mid-Sussex.

    I know some hot-pooping roads.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 25, 2006
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