REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group rec.motorcycles.victory This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, rec.motorcycles.victory. NEWSGROUPS LINE: rec.motorcycles.victory rec.motorcycles.victory Polaris Victory motorcycle rides, tech, resources. RATIONALE: rec.motorcycles.victory To promote the safe use of Victory motorcycles as well as to better develop social connections among Victory riders, it's vital for owners to be able to easily exchange information on a world-wide basis and this newsgroup will fill that need. There are a several online forums available for discussing Victory motorcycles: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/VictoryDigest/ http://forums.thevmc.com/megabbs/category-view.asp http://savr.phpbbnow.com/ http://victorypowerriders.com/phpBB2/index.php http://www.illinoisvictoryriders.com/forums/ http://www.kingpincruisers.net/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,38/ http://www.mwmotorcycles.com/forum/index.php?board=54.0 http://www.rideavictory.com/forum/ http://www.tcvr.us/messages/ http://www.thvmc.com/forums/ http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=120 http://www.victory-motorcycle.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi http://www.vmclinks.com/x/modules/newbb/ ....but many of them are more or less regionally limited, require registration or membership, and-or are difficult to find. Usenet motorcycle newsgroups are generally for the discussion of other makes of motorcycles and-or the participant communicates in non-English languages. The rec.motorcycles group is an exception but is too generalized and far too active (currently well over 100,000 posts have been made in that group and the rate is well over 200 posts a day.) Although rec.motorcycles might work for an occasional question, getting a useful answer to a question from another Victory owner is much less likely due to the vast readership. Ownership and interest in Victory motorcyles has grown to the point where there will be adequate interest to support a make-specific newsgroup. This would be similar to the way rec.motorcyles.harley serves the community of those interested in Harley Davidson motorcyles. Based on the topic alone, there would be no (or at least very little) overlap with other motorcycle groups and rec.motorcycles.victory would be easy to locate for Victory owners who are usenet savvy. TRAFFIC ANALYSIS: 2006-10-29 analysis of existing motorcycle newsgroup activity is as follows: GROUP NAME CURRENT ARTICLE COUNT nordunet.rec.motorcycles 6 alt.uk.motorcycles.harley 62 tamu.clubs.motorcycles 69 tnn.rec.motorcycles 70 ky.motorcycles 72 alt.motorcycles.mrf 130 pa.motorcycle 309 ne.motorcycles 376 alt.motorcycles.abate 459 can.rec.motorcycles 618 ni.motorcycles 760 alt.binaries.pictures.motorcycles 874 uk.rec.motorcycles.trailriding 1096 r j.rec.motorcycles 1431 alt.motorcycles.ducati 1536 nyc.motorcycles 1784 be.rec.motorcycles 2985 alt.binaries.pictures.motorcycles.sportbike 3758 alt.binaries.pictures.motorcycles.harley 8052 alt.motorcycles.yamaha 9740 rec.motorcycles.racing 14724 alt.motorcycles 14872 ba.motorcycles 19484 otimotorcycles 21411 rec.motorcycles.tech 22189 uk.rec.motorcycles.classic 25085 alt.motorcycles.harley 30582 tx.motorcycles 50340 tw.bbs.rec.motorcycle 55328 alt.motorcycle.sportbike 89004 rec.motorcycles.dirt 122735 aus.motorcycles 150446 rec.motorcycles.harley 229118 rec.motorcycles 281282 uk.rec.motorcycles 702114 CHARTER: rec.motorcycles.victory is for discussion of all aspects of Polaris Victory motorcycles, hereafter referred to simply as "Victory" motorcycles. Topics include technical discussion, ride reports, product and new model reviews and announcements of upcoming rides. Posters are expected to abide by normal Usenet standards of decorum (for example, lurking a while before posting, etc.) and to refrain from sending, as well as ignore, articles intended to disrupt the group. Bottom posting will be the norm. Examples of inappropriate posts are the following: * Off topic articles, including: - Commercial advertisements - Personal advertisements not related to Victory motorcycles - General discussions not related to Victory motorcycles - Money-making schemes - Chain letters - EMP AKA "excessive multiple posting" spam * Articles with unacceptable content, such as: - HTML - Copyright violations - Excessive quoting - Threats and/or advocation of violence - Binaries, except PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other ancillary meta-data * Attempts to subvert message filtering or to pretend to be somebody else, such as: - Forgery or imitation of a valid e-mail address - Excessive morphing/nym-shifting AKA "using sock puppets" The group will be unmoderated and will not be gated to a mailing list. PROCEDURE: For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see: http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final resolution should subscribe to news.groups and participate in the relevant threads in that newsgroup. This is both a courtesy to groups in which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best method of making sure that one's comments or criticisms are heard. All discussion of active proposals should be posted to news.groups. To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to news.groups. If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure that all discussion appears in news.groups as well. DISTRIBUTION: This document has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups rec.motorcycles rec.motorcycles.harley rec.motorcycles.tech The proponent will also post pointers to: alt.motorcycles.abate alt.motorcycles.harley uk.rec.motorcycles tx.motorcycles aus.motorcycles PROPONENT: John Corliss <rtd3ws at yahoo dot com> CHANGE HISTORY: 2006-10-30 1st RFD