Restrictor kit removal advice

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by JR, Nov 10, 2003.

  1. JR

    JR Guest

    Does anybody share the opinion that having a restrictor kit fitted is not
    conducive to safe motorway riding?
    On my restricted 600 Bandit, I am struggling to overtake coffin dodgers in
    twentysomething Metros, who insist on travelling at a steady 56mph because
    somebody last century said that it was the optimum speed to drive at...
    At 70mph, the poor restricted Bandit really struggles to accelerate out of
    trouble, leaving the unfortunate rider stuck between dozing Sunday motorists
    and being tailgated by arrogant twats in company Vectras and such like.
    After what seems like an eternity, it whines up to 80 or 90 mph (which is
    plenty fast enough for me, by the way); it's just the time that it takes to
    get there!!
    If somebody was to remove said restrictor, would this have a positive effect
    on acceleration, or just the top speed or both, for that matter?
    On that note, how hard is it to remove the restrictors on a 2001 GSF600S?
    (And for that matter, refit them?)
    I feel that as a regular participant in club runs, I have fulfilled my
    obligation as "Tail-end Charlie" and would like to leave that honour to the
    older gents on their gin-palace shafties.
     
    JR, Nov 10, 2003
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  2. JR

    ogden Guest

    So buy an unrestricted RS125 that'll do a ton.

    I spit on your overweight underpowered commuter bike.
     
    ogden, Nov 10, 2003
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    Mash Guest

    No, that would be a load of old bollocks. You don't get too many motorway
    deaths because people can only get 100 out of their bike But if you're
    looking for an excuse to remove it, its not too bad.
    What gear are you in? third will take you up to 100.
    Yes.
     
    Mash, Nov 10, 2003
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  4. JR

    Gavsta Guest

    When I was starting to drive my Father always used to tell me that cruising
    at 55MPH was the best speed for fuel economy [1]. It would make sense that a
    car manufacturer would use the optimum speed so they can lay claims to the
    MPG performance of their vehicles? Just a thought. its not so much of a
    claim that a car will do 7MPG @ 140MPH now is it?

    [1] He also thought that the world was flat, women with pointy noses were
    witches and voted Tory[2]!
    [2] He voted Tory, not the witches, although its a thought.
    --
    Gavsta
    GSXR600K1
    Z750 Race bike
    Team NFG R6 Race bike (also shared, and now fixed)

    http://www.stoof.co.uk
     
    Gavsta, Nov 10, 2003
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  5. JR

    christofire Guest

    How long have you been riding? Assuming not long:

    If you can't observe the situation, plan ahead and make moves
    comfortably then you might consider:

    * Improving your awareness of surroundings and situations
    * Improving your planning of what you're going to do and why
    * Improving your confidence

    before you start doing things faster. If you find yourself being
    tailgated while overtaking then be more aware of potential escape routes
    and don't get flustered or intimidated.

    Get your forward planning sorted out - if you're going to overtake plan
    it and you should be able to be back in your lane quick-sharp. Maybe
    some advanced training would help, or get one of your clubs' better
    riders to ride with you, watch what you're doing and talk you through
    what he does when he's riding.

    I sat through the 2 year restriction. At times it was a pain, but
    looking back it was a good thing. It makes you develop technique if you
    want to get anywhere, as you can't rely on the power of the bike to
    cover up your mistakes. If you can't exercise a little patience at
    times then you might like to try a less vulnerable means of transport.
     
    christofire, Nov 10, 2003
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  6. JR

    simonk Guest

    If you're really that bothered about saving fuel and/or money, you should be
    travelling by bus
     
    simonk, Nov 10, 2003
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  7. JR

    Gavsta Guest

    *I* am not bothered.

    Just making a contribution. ;-)

    --
    Gavsta
    GSXR600K1
    Z750 Race bike
    Team NFG R6 Race bike (also shared, and now fixed)

    http://www.stoof.co.uk
     
    Gavsta, Nov 10, 2003
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  8. JR wrote
    Nope.

    Losing weight would be far more effective.

    additionally:-
    I think sir will find that if sir endeavours to keep to a steady +10%+2
    whilst staying between lanes 1 and 2a then sir will be by far and away
    the fastest thing on the roads over longer distances and be bored silly
    for most of it.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 10, 2003
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  9. JR

    Eddie Guest

    If you think[1] about this for a second, you'll realise that the
    likelihood of all the different cars in the world, with all their
    differing aerodynamics, gearing, engines, etc., all being at their most
    economical at exactly the same speed are very, very slim.

    It's Only A Number.


    [1] Unlikely, I know.
     
    Eddie, Nov 10, 2003
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  10. Gavsta wrote
    The old "Double Nickel." Merkin thing innit.

    40 years ago, when the ayrabs were a bit more open about their policies
    of genocide with regard to the yids and the feeling was well
    reciprocated the bastards stopped selling us petrol.


    The powers that be decided that an overall upper speed limit was the
    bestist way to encourage us proles not to use too much of what little we
    could steal from non ayrab influenced places. The merkins worked out
    that the best overall compromise was at about 55/60. The rest is
    history.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 10, 2003
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  11. Eddie wrote
    I wouldn't bet on it but I am fairly convinced that they are all pretty
    close to best at that speed. See my other post for reasons why.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 10, 2003
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  12. JR

    Ginge Guest

    *boggle*

    I don't get this. My commute costs me £10 in fuel but would cost
    much more by the combination of bus & train.

    I think the best way to save money on fuel is to get a Seat Cupra TDI as
    my next car.
     
    Ginge, Nov 10, 2003
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  13. JR

    JR Guest

    Point taken!
    Maybe said person should be patient for just a little while longer...(But it
    would be nice to accelerate just a little quicker).
     
    JR, Nov 10, 2003
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  14. Andrewr At Work wrote
    No fucking mention of the fucking fact that I fucking used the fucking
    word compromise fucking is there? Oh fucking no. A complete and
    fucking absolute fucking absence of it is what I fucking see.

    That is cars that are built for economy records innit? Yer average
    modern family cage is built for CD's innit?

    I do recall hearing somewhere that the modern IC petrol engine is at
    it's best economy/efficiency when revving moderately against a slight
    load. Dunno if this is true or not but it fits in with the 55mph model.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 10, 2003
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  15. JR

    Ace Guest

    ITYF that it was the normal quoted figure because it's appox 90km/h,
    which is the national speed limit in most euro countries.
     
    Ace, Nov 10, 2003
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  16. Andrewr At Work wrote
    Who gives a shit about your point?!

    We are talking modern engines are we not? Well at least I am, you are
    off in some little world all of your own again, obviously.
    You could try laddie.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 10, 2003
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  17. Oi! Don't be dissing the favoured transport of Herself or there will
    be trouble..

    56mph indeed! Chance would be a fine thing..

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 10, 2003
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  18. JR

    Gavsta Guest

    Do **** off. No need for that is there.

    --
    Gavsta
    GSXR600K1
    Z750 Race bike
    Team NFG R6 Race bike (also shared, and now fixed)

    http://www.stoof.co.uk
     
    Gavsta, Nov 10, 2003
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  19. JR

    Gavsta Guest

    I agree. Obviously comparing a Ferrari to a Mini is not the way to do it (do
    top flight sports cars actually even give an MPG figure?).

    But "normal" cars would be pretty bang on. I rarly drive at 55MPH but when I
    have done in *any* vehicle there seems to be very little load on the engine
    and I imagine that it does return good milage. I know that on a track day a
    bike uses a scary amount of fuel in a very short time for exactly the
    opposite reason.

    and was only quoting what me Dad told me!

    --
    Gavsta
    GSXR600K1
    Z750 Race bike
    Team NFG R6 Race bike (also shared, and now fixed)

    http://www.stoof.co.uk
     
    Gavsta, Nov 10, 2003
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  20. JR

    Eddie Guest

    ooooOOOOoooo! Get her.

    Oh, and how about some attribution, hmmm?
     
    Eddie, Nov 10, 2003
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