Removing exhaust stub

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003.

  1. Right, now this is *really* getting on my tits.

    When removing the old rusty exhaust from my project ST70 Dax, the header
    snapped off leaving the stub still in the manifold in the cylinder head.

    It's like a steel tube, maybe an inch or so in diameter, and it's just a
    push fit in the head.

    It's snapped off flush, although there *is* a small cutaway where you
    can get a punch or flat blade onto it. You can't get jaws or anything
    like that onto it, though.

    And it's seized absolutely solid. I've had a blowlamp on it for 15
    minutes, got it as hot as poss, put a hammer and punch on it and tried
    to knock it around to free it, tried to shock it, as it were, but I
    cannot shfit the fecker.

    I have heard of these buggers being so appallingly stuck that a
    replacement cylinder head is the only answer! But I don't wan to spend
    ukp90 on that avenue.

    Has anyone got any ideas as to how to get the *bastard* thing out?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    Do you want something to cheer you up? Try this:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2425100588&category=10534

    Once you're over the shock, look at the bid history ... and then look
    at the seller's feedback. Ouch.

    So, how much does this make XS fuel tanks worth, eh? Even more if you
    crush three of yours, making the survivors even more rare, I reckon.
     
    Pip, Aug 9, 2003
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  3. Yes I di something like this the other day. I just ground a slot on the
    inside of the exaust stub with the air grinder. Then levered it out with
    a screw driver...

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    SimonB - South Wales. BOF#32
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    FOR SALE :-
    Kawasaki Z1R £1999.99 ONO.
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    eric the brave, Aug 9, 2003
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  4. The Older Gentleman

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
    If you get really, really stuck drag it on over here and we'll have a go
    at boring it out in the mill.

    I *might* even not **** it up...
    --
    Nigel
    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20

    ZZR1100 and Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner" (No , I'm
    not sure how that happened either).
     
    Nigel Eaton, Aug 9, 2003
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  5. yeah, I've been doing that. No joy so far.
    I started doing this earlier today with a very knackered chisel. I've
    made a V-shaped cut in the thing, but I need a better chisel.

    ("You're gonna need a bigger boat, I mean chisel")

    It is still as stuck fast as a very stuck thing that's drunk a gallon of
    super glue.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003
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  6. Not this one, you won't.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003
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  7. I may have to do that. What are you doing tomorrow (Sunday?)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    Bigger does not mean better. I'd be deploying my Ultimate Deterrent -
    the set of Mr Snap-On's best, that have served me well for 15+ years.
    Small, sharp and hard as hell. Don't mushroom, neither do they chip.
    They've cut through and off all sorts of stuck things and still hold a
    fine edge.
    You'll have to cut it all the way down, then peel it out with a decent
    pair of grips.
     
    Pip, Aug 9, 2003
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  9. I've been trying. But you can't get grips on it. Too small, too
    recessed, no clearance.

    **** and triple ****.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003
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  10. Ta. Er, where d'you live?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003
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  11. I cut inside the pipe. It made the wall section thinner and eventually
    broke through. A very small eletrical screwdriver with its end nice and
    sharp was then used to lever the thinnes wall inwards klike a scroll.
    once I had it in a wire circlip "G" section I could get the thin nosed
    pliers on it...

    You could always pur battery acid on down the gap. Bit over the top mind
    ewe...

    --
    SimonB - South Wales. BOF#32
    *******************************
    GSXR1000 Sold. Triumph Sprint ST (awaiting)
    ZXR750L2 wazimbaki.

    FOR SALE :-
    Kawasaki Z1R £1999.99 ONO.
    Dinese Luce two piece Size 56 £149.99.
    Stainless round Scorpion Can ZX9R £39.99.
    *******************************
     
    eric the brave, Aug 9, 2003
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  12. My favourite technique for getting seized tubes out of things is this:

    If you're unlucky, use a hacksaw blade to cut the tube into segments
    (with the cut going along the length of the tube), then attack each
    offending segment in turn. If you're lucky, you'll only have to cut a
    few segments as some of the tube might not be siezed. If you're really
    lucky, you might only have to make one cut in the tube and then bash
    something like a screwdriver inbetwen the head and the exhaust. The
    exhaust will either break up or curl up like a watch spring and be
    easily removed.

    I've used it on things far more robust than exhaust tube. Even on
    tubes screwed into things. Only then you have to watch you don't cut
    too far and knacker the screw thread....

    Mark.
     
    Mark G Phillips, Aug 9, 2003
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  13. I've removed a section., The rest is stuck fast. I can't be too violent
    or I'll damage the jointing face.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2003
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    Platypus Guest

    Well, while you're trying to think of something, leave it face down in a
    puddle of penetrating oil - like, overnight, or several days, or
    whatever. Can't hurt.

    Meanwhile, if you know anyone who's handy with a lathe, get them to set
    it up and bore a 1/64" or so off the inside.

    --
    Platypus
    VN800 Drifter, R80RT
    DIAABTCOD#2 GPOTHUF#19
    BOTAFOS#6 BOTAFOT#89
    BOB#1 SBS#35 ANORAK#18 TWA#15
    "WOULD YOU KINDLY SHUT THE **** UP!"
     
    Platypus, Aug 9, 2003
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  15. Long shot ? Mig weld (tack) a suitable lever (keystock ?) along both sides
    of lever to the stub, this alowing for the application of real torque. The
    concentrated heat may break the corrosion bond to boot. Test your heat
    settings and your technique on some light scrap before making some new.

    Jake.
     
    Nunya Bizness, Aug 10, 2003
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  16. We considered this, but decided it wouldn't have worked because it was
    stuck *way* too tight for that. In the event, it's been sorted. See
    thread "TOG has left the premises".
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 10, 2003
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  17. gOn Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:23:42 GMT, "Nunya Bizness" <>
    wrote:

    ....

    Friendly pointer: Post below the txt you are replying to on Newsgroups
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    Also check out the FAQ on www.ukrm.net

    Sorry to bother you - I'm studying for my Netkkkop exam...


    JG
     
    Johannes Gerber, Aug 10, 2003
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  18. "TOG's left the premises", to be strictly accurate.

    Jeez, use a search engine, why don't you?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 11, 2003
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  19. Ah! I take it you've found it now, then ;-))
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 11, 2003
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