Removing difficult float bowl screws

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by wadedunham, Jun 6, 2007.

  1. wadedunham

    wadedunham Guest

    I'm trying to get the float bowls off of my 1996 Yamaha FZR600. The
    bike has been sitting for about two years, and I'm pretty sure at
    least one of the floats is stuck. I have managed to loosen 8 of the 16
    screws, but the remaining screws won't budge. I think they may be
    corroded. I have chosen a screwdriver bit that fits the screws pretty
    well, but even so, I have managed to almost strip one of the screws. I
    have tried tapping on the end of the screwdriver with a hammer while I
    try to turn the screws out, but that didn't help. Does anyone have a
    better way to get these out? Thanks.

    Wade
     
    wadedunham, Jun 6, 2007
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    the fly Guest

    If there's room around the head of the screw to work, a set of
    battery pliers may be able to get a bite and loosen the screw. The
    jaws of some battery pliers may not come near enough together to match
    the head diameter, but I've been fortunate.
    Kinda tears up the head of the screw, but after you get them
    out, you replace with srainless socket-head screws, anyway.
     
    the fly, Jun 6, 2007
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    Charlie Gary Guest


    Touch a soldering iron to the screws for a while. Then see if you can
    get some vise grips on the heads.

    Later,

    Charlie
     
    Charlie Gary, Jun 6, 2007
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    Ian Singer Guest

    Use an impact driver. If you still can not get it out cut the head off
    with a dremel.

    Ian Singer


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  5. wadedunham

    Ian Singer Guest

    The ones with a much sharper point are not Phillips but are Japaense
    Cross Point.

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    oldgeezer Guest


    Phillips heads have four slots, Posidriv also has four slots, but a
    little cross mark between
    them. Posidriv bits have 4 '' wings" but there is a very small "wing"
    between each of them.
    Phillips tips do not work well at posidriv heads and posidriv doesn't
    work well for phillips
    heads.
    Have a look at wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozidriv

    Personally I like the Torx best.
    Rob.
     
    oldgeezer, Jun 6, 2007
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  7. Are the carbs still on the bike ? You might want to
    remove them so you had better access.

    A little bit of valve grinding compound in the slot to help
    the screwdriver bit get a bite, a little bit of heat and an
    impact driver.

    Alternately, some screwdrivers have a hex section just
    below the handle that you can put a wrench on for
    leverage. With a wrench for leverage and your full
    weight bearing on the screwdriver, it'll usually turn.

    It's just possible too that the screws may be loctited
    in. If so, heat would help. Be sure the bowls are
    empty first though.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Jun 6, 2007
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    Roger Hunt Guest

    Rob Kleinschmidt wrote
    (tight screws)
    Noted! That sounds very useful, that grinding paste.
    I often employ a brace and suitable hex section bit - with leaning on
    it the potential leverage is phenomenal (and the danger of screw
    breakage is very real, of course, if it's a really tight one).
     
    Roger Hunt, Jun 7, 2007
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  9. wadedunham

    wadedunham Guest

    I was trying to get the float bowls off while the carbs were still on
    the bike (lazy, I know), but decided to remove them this evening. I
    was then able to use an impact driver to get them out. Some were still
    very difficult to loosen (lots of hammer needed). The one screw that I
    had almost stripped did strip after using the impact driver. I used my
    Craftsman rotary tool (like a Dremel) with a cutoff wheel to grind a
    slot in the top of the screw, then used a straight bit in the impact
    driver to finally get it out.

    Thanks to everyone who offered advice. I appreciate the help.

    Wade
     
    wadedunham, Jun 7, 2007
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    paul c Guest

    A mechanic instructor I know tells everybody the same thing, especially
    when trying to remove those damn Phillips head screws, try it once by
    hand with the biggest Phillips bit that will go in (make sure the bit is
    perfect first), then go straight to the hand impact driver!

    p
     
    paul c, Jun 7, 2007
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  11. When he says heat, he desn't mean a blowtorch! Think what's in those
    float bowls.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 7, 2007
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  12. wadedunham

    Roger Hunt Guest

    The Older Gentleman wrote
    Oh stop fussing. I know what I'm ... Kaboom! ....
     
    Roger Hunt, Jun 7, 2007
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