Removing 33bhp restictor

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Kevin Stone, Mar 21, 2007.

  1. Kevin Stone

    Kevin Stone Guest

    Hi,

    If someone had a restriction on their ER-5 (say), how easy would this be to
    remove, and would the authorities ever find out (say)?

    PS it's not me (as I have a 600 bandit), or any of my friends (honest
    officer).
     
    Kevin Stone, Mar 21, 2007
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  2. Kevin Stone

    Eddie Guest

    Probably not, unless anything ever happened that could cause some
    investigation, such as an accident or other insurance claim.
    "They all say that, sir."

    This would be more effective if you changed your name on your newsgroup
    account settings in Outlook Express.
     
    Eddie, Mar 21, 2007
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  3. Kevin Stone

    Jeremy Guest

    Make your mind up - is it Kevin or Neil?
     
    Jeremy, Mar 21, 2007
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  4. Kevin Stone

    Neil Stone Guest

    Make your mind up - is it Kevin or Neil?

    I'm at work now - and I've just changed it!
     
    Neil Stone, Mar 21, 2007
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  5. Kevin Stone

    Neil Stone Guest

    Neil
    Oops - at work, just changed it.

    :)
     
    Neil Stone, Mar 21, 2007
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  6. Kevin Stone

    Neil Stone Guest

    If someone had a restriction on their ER-5 (say), how easy would this be
    How?
     
    Neil Stone, Mar 21, 2007
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  7. Kevin Stone

    o0-0o Guest

    Depends how you feel about riding around uninsured - cos that's what
    you'll be doing. No-one will ever know until you have an accident and
    try to claim, whereupon they will find out your little secret and
    refuse to pay, which they will be quite entitled to do. Personally, I
    would pay the extra and have the peace of mind.

    DaveP
     
    o0-0o, Mar 21, 2007
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  8. Kevin Stone

    Eddie Guest

    Remove seat;
    Remove fuel tank;
    Remove airbox;
    Remove carbs;
    Remove airflow-restricting washer-like things;
    Assembly is the reverse of disassembly.
     
    Eddie, Mar 21, 2007
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  9. Kevin Stone

    Ace Guest

    Not as such, you won't.
    IF they found out, and IF they claimed that the 'modification' was
    contributory to the accident they could refuse to pay out for the
    insured's damages, but not for any 3rd party claim.
    It's not about paying lower insurance, but riding a bike that you're
    not (yet) licensed for. And I can well understand why someone would
    want to.

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    Ace, Mar 21, 2007
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  10. Kevin Stone

    o0-0o Guest

    Fair point about the third party - I'd not taken that into account.
    But I would bet a month's wages that a modification that increased
    performance would be held (by the inscos at least) to have contributed
    to almost any accident you care to name. Even a SMDSY, as they could
    claim that without the restrictor you would have likely been going
    faster and less able to avoid the accident or mitigate its effects.
    And they have the money - if they decide not to pay, it's going to be
    no fun at all trying to convince them otherwise.

    As for the IFs in capitals: inscos are well aware of the ease of
    derestricting a 33bhp bike, and I would imagine they would
    automatically be looking for evidence of tampering on any sizeable
    claim. I would rephrase that as they WILL find out, and they WILL
    claim the mod was contributory. But I take your point. I just reckon
    that it's easier to be straight with your insurance, then you can get
    on with enjoying the riding.

    DaveP
     
    o0-0o, Mar 21, 2007
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  11. Kevin Stone

    Nige Guest

    My mate has a 33hp licence, he has been offered from some sources,
    bikes unrestricted with restricted paperwork?

    --
    'Lenny Henry Is Not Fucking Funny'

    Nige

    Subaru WRX (54)
    Land Rover Discovery II
    BMW GS1200 2007
     
    Nige, Mar 21, 2007
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  12. Kevin Stone

    BGN Guest

    There are two washers somewhere someone else pointed out in this
    thread.

    I originally had a 25Kw restricted license and just re-took my test on
    an unrestricted ER-5 (Although the riding school said the easiest way
    to do it was:

    1) Book the appropriate test (£45?) with the DSA and turn up.
    2) When examiner asks how you got there tell him you rode bitch with
    biker mate. Biker mate just happens to have a helmet with him and
    didn't ride with you at all.
    3) Point to biker mate who waves at you and examiner and is waiting
    outside.
    4) Take test on your existing restricted ER-5 as the DSA won't know
    the difference.
    5) Pass.

    Sorted.

    However, I think I paid about £60 or £70 for the riding school to
    provide a real unrestricted ER-5. They booked the test, took me
    around for an hour beforehand to make sure I wasn't doing anything odd
    and then I passed the test with one minor or something like that.

    The two oversized washers were taken out a couple of weeks later by
    the garage. I needed new tyres so booked the ER-5 in for two new
    shoes and restrictor removal.
     
    BGN, Mar 21, 2007
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  13. Kevin Stone

    toad Guest

    How the **** does that help? If you give reason to investigate what
    you're riding any paperwork you have is going to be irrelevant.

    If plod have any reason to check the power output of your bike is his
    higher than it seems they're gonna check and waving a receipt or
    'certificate' under their noses aint gonna make a blind bit of
    difference.

    My SO rode with a restriction for two years. I put them in when she
    passed the first test. I took them out when she got the full license.
    For her it just wasn't worth the potential legal fall out just to ride
    a slightly faster bike. YMMV. What was suprising is that in the real
    world a 33bhp 500 is a pretty adequate bike.

    FWIW I *think* if Plod suspect you're riding an unrestricted bike not
    in accordance with your license they tend to give you a VRO and get
    you to take it to an MOT station or somesuch to be checked within a
    few days. Which gives you plenty of time to pop the restrictors in.
    You'd need to double check that.
     
    toad, Mar 22, 2007
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  14. FFS. One minute everyone's posting cute fluffy kitten lookalike
    pictures of each other, next this! You big bunch of jessies.

    Kevin/Neil; just take the restrictor out and have done with it -
    chances are extremely high that you'll get away with it. "Probably
    getting away with it" is 83.47666% of the fun of riding.

    Of course, if you do get caught I'll be riding past flicking the v's
    and laughing hysterically, but you probably won't.
     
    Slower Than You, Mar 23, 2007
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