Religion, the cure for all ills?

Except this time it failed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8180116.stm

My wife has been (and still is) very ill. If I had sat and prayed
instead of calling an ambulance then she would be dead, our son would
have no mother.

It makes me so angry to see people still thinking an invisible pixie
(tm someone on this group) will cure your loved ones. Minor rant
over...

 

I had a go at a group of JW's about their stance on refusing blood
tranfusions. IMO as adults they could make that decision if it was
them that needed the transfusion. But I felt it totally wrong for them
to refuse a life-saving transfusion for their children.
--
Richard

XJ900S
BOTAFOT #138, YTC#18, OMF#12

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Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Mike Barnard

<shrug>

"Think of it as evolution in action"

--
Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
go and talk to the Catholics.

 

I think trying to persuade any parent to apply to their children any
ethics other than their own is a complete and utter waste of time.

Of course, wasting a JW's time is a good thing to the extent that it
relieves some other poor sod of the tedium of meeting them.

 

If only it worked that way. There seems to be more 'belivers' in
various religions now than ever.

 

It makes me angry that someone who actually cared for their child
(albeit in a misguided way) faces a longer jail term than if they had
stabbed them to death.

 

You are right. This group did however have a child with them and I'd
like to think I'd planted some seed of doubt into their mind.

I like to think of myself as a community-minded person
--
Richard

XJ900S
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Err, 25 years < life.

 

Stabbing a child to death is generally a heat of the moment thing and
isn't premeditated.

Watching your child die over the course of a several days and only
phoning an ambulance after they have stopped breathing is something
they would have had to have decided to do and had DAYS to correct
before it was too late.

What all of these religious nutters don't think about is that their
chosen god or whatever let Jesus, their only son, die. Jesus died for
ALL of us, even the baddies. As Jesus did this then nomatter how shit
someone is on earth hell is an empty place as Jesus saves all.
Therefore if they had phoned an ambulance against the wishes of their
church in the end they would still have been saved by the Lord in the
end.

That's what I generally say to nutters, anyway.

 

Certainly the case across the Atlantic. Over there on hols last week, I
was reading an article on how difficult it is to be openly atheist. It
seemed that there would be greater acceptance of being a self-declared
paedo.

Reading some of the press coverage of this case, it looked like there
were genuine questions about the likelihood and appropriateness of
conviction.

The mind genuinely boggles.

 

"Hey buddy, we're Christians, we don't like what you said."
"Then forgive me".

 

One of my colleagues in a past job was a JW. She gave birth to a girl who was
incredibly ill. The docs told her that her daughter needed an operation to
increase her chances of survival. Torn between her beliefs and medical advice,
she gave permission but her daughter still died.

She now believes that she's being punished by God for going against her
beliefs.

 

AFAIK there's nothing against their beliefs with regards having
surgery, other than recieving blood, or products related to blood. One
of my schoolfriends was JW, and died following a car crash for exactly
that reason.

 

Justin Webb, writing his last article as the BBC's US Editor referred
to this case under the sub-heading, "Stone-Age superstitions"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8176448.stm

 

I don't really give a ****. No-one I know would be that stupid, and
anyone I don't know, I don't care about.

 

If my wife came home to find me unable to call an ambulance and likely to die without medical
attention she wouldn't just pray, she would go out again for a couple of hours to make sure.
After all, God helps those who help themselves.

 

Sad? Pathetic is a better word.

Any JW denying a relative a blood transfusion should be charged with
manslaughter if the person dies.

 

When I saw 'americas' in the url I immediately thought it would be some
superstitious peasant type in the Andes. But no, it was some
superstitious peasant type in Wisconsin.
I wasn't suprised all that much, tbh. These inbred, useless, stupid
bastards exist everywhere.

 

Diabetes take a little longer to kill than a simple stabbing and would be
incredibly painful. I say **** the lot of them in both eyes for denying the
kid treatment. No blood products need be used to treat T1 diabetes, so THAT
argument is fucked.

--
Beav

VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19

 

****. Poor sod.

Keep plugging away, at the daughter, I mean, not the mum. Hopefully
she'll see sense once she's old enough to make her own mind up.

One of my brothers is married to a veggie and their two kids have
never been fed meat. The girl is a stick-thin, pasty-looking specimen,
and really looks like she could do with a good meal. could be
coincidence of course. The lad, just like his dad, will take any
opportunity, when not with mum, to eat meat, especially McDonalds and
the like. Which is sad, but not as sad as not eating meat.