Regulator/Rectifiers?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by CrazyCam, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. CrazyCam

    CrazyCam Guest

    Also, the lit headlight, or two, in the case of the Striple, actually
    tends to make it harder for folk to judge the speed and distance of the
    blaze of light.

    The Striple comes with a fairly small battery, and, when "fiddling" with
    the mapping in the ECU, you want the ignition switched on, but the
    engine not running, so you run the risk of flattening the battery.

    On trackdays, I'd prefer to tape up my headlights, but, if they are on,
    they'll bake the tape onto the glass.

    BTW, on the BMW, which I got the on/off switch for, my standard daytime
    running is side lights on, and a pair of small, 35 watt, "running
    lights" also switched on. They are visible, but not too bright, and
    they present something different from most motorcycles on the road.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Nov 27, 2010
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  2. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:40:50 +1100
    You could find some of the clear vinyl/plastic designed to adhere to
    headlights as protectors? Then paint it... put it on for track days,
    take it off for normal riding.

    I got a universal kit - meaning a chunk of the stuff, cut it yourself
    - from MCA from memory.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 28, 2010
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  3. CrazyCam

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I run one white headlight, one yellow headlight for the same reason.
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 28, 2010
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    To be fair to Triumph, their previous electrical knowhow came from Joe
    Lucas.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 28, 2010
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  5. CrazyCam

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    The old power supplies using a 'past' or series regulation absorbed all the
    power and what wasn't used went to the air as heat. This is terribly
    inefficient as a 500 watt power supply from which you drew 50 watts
    generated 450 watts of heat, enough to keep a small room warm.

    Phase mod power supplies monitor the current draw and turn off the input
    power at the appropriate height of the input sine wave, turning it on again
    at the zero voltage cross point.

    Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation This shows input
    power control of an AC motor but the principle is the same when applied to
    power supplies. Basically you only allow a part of the input sine wave
    through the regulator to become your output power.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 28, 2010
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  6. CrazyCam

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Is that legal? I understand that her in Oz, yellow used to be the colour for
    fog lights and it is illegal to have fog lights on in WA when there is no
    fog $200-400 fine.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 28, 2010
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  7. CrazyCam

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Don't know for sure. This bulb came out of a grey-import bike and I've seen
    similar grey-import cars with the coloured headlights.
    The grey-import bike was inspected and plated with the bulb in it and this
    bike was inspected and un-written-off with the yellow/white combination
    headlights but I don't expect any of that would matter to a cop (or a
    court).

    A quick look at the Qld Transport website says that bulbs must be marked as
    complying with European ECE37 standard (generally just a large E) for post
    1991 vehicles so I really doubt my '80s vintage Jap bulb is gonna' be legal.
    Damn!

    Thanks Theo.
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 28, 2010
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  8. CrazyCam

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    European fog lights used to be yellow as did all head lights in France. They
    eventually all agreed that all lights to the front of a vehicle will be
    white (except for the indicators) This was after 1970 but definitely before
    1991.

    OTOH my 1967 Mercedes has yellow fog lights, but they are only legal because
    it came with them. Once I get Historic tags, it ceases to be a problem
    anyway.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 28, 2010
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    JustBiggus Guest

    Nope
     
    JustBiggus, Nov 28, 2010
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Sorry; the 1991 bit is in our ADR (51 I think). All Australian-regod bikes
    post 1991 must have the E headlight bulbs.
    It made no mention of when ECE37 came in. (a Google hit suggests 1982)
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 28, 2010
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  11. Ah...yes.....Joe Lucas
    The Prince Of Darkness
     
    George W Frost, Nov 28, 2010
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    atec77 Guest

    Odd I thought that bloke was from some tiny little mid eastern euro
    country rather than pomigolia
     
    atec77, Nov 28, 2010
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    To be totally fair to Lucas, their stuff really was shit. The only thing
    that saved them was being bought out by Bosch.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 3, 2010
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    atec77 Guest

    Considering how long Lucas was around they successfully filled a niche
    for decades , bosch wasn't perfect either being generally more
    complicated and costing more and even breaking down occasionally . I
    still use some of the Lucas magneto's on the trumpy and bsa and they
    perform ferpectly , it's just the generators that have internal wind
    causing the odd flicker when it rains in the next county
     
    atec77, Dec 3, 2010
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Internal wind? Doesn't something have internal wind because it is full of
    shit?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 3, 2010
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  16. My old Trump 500 speed twin had Lucas electrics and was always breaking down
    the Matchy 500 twin also broke down fairly regularly and the Matchy 650,
    they both have Lucas electrics and kept me on the side of the road more than
    a dozen times.
    The Vincent breaks down quite often.
    I reckon I kept Neil Mann in food over the years
    The Honda on the other hand, never broke down electrically
     
    George W Frost, Dec 3, 2010
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  17. I thought that Lucas bought out Bosch when it was named CAV-Bosch during the
    1930's
     
    George W Frost, Dec 3, 2010
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    Lars Chance Guest

    I have no experience with Lucas motorcycle electrics but I know the
    Australian-build Datsun 1600s had Lucas alternators and distributors and
    they were pretty awful.
    The popular fix was to get an early model (or wagon or 180B wagon or
    SSS) Hitachi unit (or an aftermarket Bosch).
     
    Lars Chance, Dec 3, 2010
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  19. CrazyCam

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Looks like my story was incorrect. Lucas merged wit Varity in 96 and died in
    1999. The name and logo were acquired by Elta Lighting from TRW in 2004 and
    is used on some of their products.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LucasVarity

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 3, 2010
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  20. CrazyCam

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I was wrong George. Lucas bought out Bosch shares of CAV in 1937. Lucas and
    Robert Bosch remained separate companies until 1999, when Lucas died as a
    company. The Logo and brand name live on as products of Elta Lighting, who
    bought the logo from the then owners, TRW, in 2004.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 3, 2010
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