Regrinding rocker arms

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TMack, May 10, 2007.

  1. TMack

    TMack Guest

    I know that worn camshafts can be built up and then reground. Presumably
    the same can be done with the rocker arm faces on an OHC engine. I have a
    spare engine for my SO LS650 that I am rebuilding. It is generally OK but
    camshaft and rockers are worn/pitted. I have a spare new camshaft so it is
    either repair or replace (likely to be £££) for the rocker arms. Anyone
    know of a place that can do such work? In Essex or East side of London would
    be a bonus.
     
    TMack, May 10, 2007
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  2. You can do it yourself if you have a gas supply and a small kiln (easily
    made). I did it on some worn out rocker arms years ago - not because of
    cost, but because I was pissed off at how shite they were as new and how
    quickly they wore out. After case-hardening they lasted out my ownership
    of the car.

    If you really want somebody to do it for you, it should be easy to find
    a small general engineering shop that has experience in it - there's
    even a case hardening compound made for the job.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 10, 2007
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  3. TMack

    R Guest

    My friend in the boat building and repair industry recommends
    http://www.longwear-nitriding.co.uk/

    I reckon you could post the parts to them
     
    R, May 10, 2007
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  4. TMack

    TMack Guest

    I had thought about that. Grind off the pitting, keeping the profile as
    close as possible to original. Then heat and quench in oil. My only
    concern was the possibility of making the arms themselves brittle. Anyone
    else done this?
     
    TMack, May 11, 2007
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  5. Oil quenching's no good - all it will do is create a too-thin skin of
    hardened steel and it'll wear out in no time.

    The stuff I used was called 'Carburise' or something similar. All you do
    is place the pieces into the box and leave it in the kiln for several
    hours. Then let it cool down naturally - the benefit of this is to
    anneal the internal steel and avoid embrittlement.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 11, 2007
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  6. This is a fairly good intro to it...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_hardening
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 11, 2007
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  7. TMack

    TMack Guest

    Kiln? Strangely, I do not appear to have a kiln. It looks like back to
    finding someone to do it.
     
    TMack, May 12, 2007
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  8. TMack

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    You don't need a kiln. Just bury the rockers in carburising powder in
    an old baking tin, stick the tin in your nice shiny kitchen oven and
    bake for the required amount of time. Leave them to cool slowly and
    the job's done.

    I used to have charts showing cure times etc but I'm sure everything
    is available on the web.
     
    Andy Bonwick, May 12, 2007
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  9. As Andy says, you don't actually need a kiln, but to avoid marital
    distress and domestic murder, you can either use a discarded oven
    (plenty around if you know where to look) or make a small kiln up from
    refractory bricks.

    Shit, the commercial kiln I used was basically just a big hearth of ref
    bricks with a lid and a huge gas burner - dead simple, all you do is
    scale it down.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 12, 2007
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  10. TMack

    TMack Guest

    That sounds like a plan. Thanks for the info.
     
    TMack, May 13, 2007
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  11. TMack

    TMack Guest

    No problem there - SWMBO hates cooking (I'm the cook in the family) and
    probably won't care what I do with the oven. I think I will give it a try.
     
    TMack, May 13, 2007
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  12. It will stink, though. A heavy dreadful smell of doom, gloom and burnt
    nadgery bits, such as only a cooking mixture of carbonaceous oily shit
    can give off.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 13, 2007
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  13. TMack

    TMack Guest

    According to the instructions for this kind of stuff it needs a temperature
    of 800C - more than twice what the oven can deliver.
     
    TMack, May 15, 2007
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