Reevu

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Stephen Calder, Jun 14, 2006.

  1. Stephen Calder

    john doe Guest

    if yu can't afford a decent computer and internet, you probably aren't
    going to buy icon gear.
     
    john doe, Jun 18, 2006
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  2. Stephen Calder

    G-S Guest

    So I have a $3000 1 month old computer hooked up to dial up internet because
    I live in a broadband blackspot.

    Lack of broadband isn't always about not wanting it...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 18, 2006
    #22
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  3. Stephen Calder

    john doe Guest

    a lot of ppl have said they are difficult to deal with but that is just
    plain rude. scratch the reevu of the wishlist.
     
    john doe, Jun 18, 2006
    #23
  4. Stephen Calder

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I can wish for it. After discussions between our Shire and Telstra we are
    now allegedly on the list for Christmas Broadband. This is from not being on
    the list at all.

    Theo
    Running on 128KB ISDN from home. 8GB from work.
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jun 19, 2006
    #24
  5. Stephen Calder

    yzf1000 Guest


    Missing the point is fast becoming a theme with you, isn't it. The
    box that I tested that "web site" (and I use the term in the broadest
    possible way)[1] with is a dual processor 3.something gigahertz PC with

    four gig of ram, XP Pro with all latest 'critical' patches, Firefox
    1.5.0.4 with latest java, flash, etc, etc up the wazoo hanging off a
    1.5Gbit/s ADSL downlink on the Tel$tra backbone. The only thing missing
    is the partridge in the pear tree. As computers go, that one probably
    rates as "average" or slightly "above average" for *current* new
    purchases. If we assume for a moment that people keep their computers
    for, on average, about three years, and that for people heavily into
    motorcycling, a desktop computer is probably more of a tool than a
    toy (I'm assuming that your web site is somehow motorcycling related
    here), then the box I've just described is likely well above the
    average config of a computer belonging to the target audience for
    your web site.

    A member of the target audience that will visit your web site and
    say "WTF?" and then proceed to http://www.underdog-leathers.com/ and
    say "OK, it's a bit cheesy, but looks honest". No prizes for guessing
    which site is gonna come closer to meeting the target audience's
    needs. (But I'm guessing that you'll probably guess incorrectly)


    Your web site simply doesn't work. It's loaded up with flashturbation
    to the point that the point is completely missed (they're kinda like
    you in that regard). Potential customers with technically current
    commodity computers can not view the site, and so can not know what
    the site is about, and therefore can not become a customer via that
    route.


    Flashturbation is not an approach that can be used to design a 'web'
    site with an expectation of success *unless* you have a very specific
    target audience that you *know* is going to be able to cope with the
    unreliably nonstandard content. (I suppose if you're running an online
    store offering copies of Macromedia Flash to fellow flashturbators,
    then you might be in with a chance).



    You don't need to flashturbate to make a nice web site. These people
    <http://www.dine.com.au/> had a very elaborate flash based thing
    (unlike yours, theirs actually worked), but they dropped all of the
    flash and replaced it with visually identical static html after
    someone wrote to them pointing out that they were unable to email
    a link (url) for a particular product to their non-computer-literate
    Mum because the flash made it inaccessable. Step-by-step instructions
    on how to navigate the elaborate (albeit working) flash site weren't
    going to work with that particular potential customer, so "even though
    'my' cats loved it, 'I' couldn't recommend your product to 'my' Mum
    via your web site because the flash buried the links in an inaccessable
    way". They took the free qualified advice on board, and came back with
    a *much* better and *much* more accessible web site with *no* loss
    of visual impact. I gave the student that wrote to the company a
    distinction.




    Bottom line is, you're just wrong.



    GB, remember kids, every time you flashturbate, god kills a customer


    [1] Funny, my quip about abortion jokes and right-to-life rallies seems
    somehow strangely appropriate in a conversation about this
    particular (rideicon.com) 'web site'. Well, the 'abortion' part
    anyway.
     
    yzf1000, Jun 19, 2006
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  6. Stephen Calder

    G-S Guest

    We are shifting from where I live in about 8 weeks, today a representative
    of the local wireless broadband company came around to say "we are putting
    in the regional connect wireless broadband system" etc etc... *sigh*

    Where I am moving to is on an ADSL 1 enabled exchange but very likely too
    far from the exchange (5.7km by road and that's almost a straight line to
    the exchange).

    Looks like I might end up on ISDN too... (we've already cancelled the 2 way
    sat system because I wasn't signing another 18 month contract with 2 months
    before we shift).


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 19, 2006
    #26
  7. Stephen Calder

    john doe Guest

    more likely people are more likely to think "hmmm ... dodgy can't afford
    a decent website..." and either walk in to a bikeshop or buy off ebay.

    I buy off ebay as I can assess the vendor, underdog looks a lot riskier.
    if yu say so, you should run the labour party.
    you have jokes? must suck to having to be on dialup :)


    JD
     
    john doe, Jun 19, 2006
    #27
  8. Clegm?

    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jun 19, 2006
    #28
  9. Stephen Calder

    Nev.. Guest

    I saw that on the telly too and wondered what possible benefit it would
    provide to anyone riding a motorcycle on the road.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Jul 5, 2006
    #29
  10. Stephen Calder

    Rod Bacon Guest

    Being able to see behind you isn't an advantage?

     
    Rod Bacon, Jul 6, 2006
    #30
  11. Stephen Calder

    ck Guest

    that's what mirrors are for


     
    ck, Jul 6, 2006
    #31
  12. Stephen Calder

    Rod Bacon Guest

    that's what mirrors are for

    Yes, they are. But if you could broaden your view and virtually remove
    all blind spots, then wouldn't that be an advantage?

    Also, having owned over a dozen bikes, mirrors just aren't mirrors.
    Some bikes can have huge mirrors, but still have crappy visibility
    because of other considerations.
     
    Rod Bacon, Jul 6, 2006
    #32
  13. Stephen Calder

    ck Guest

    as someone else said - lift your elbow/arm

    try turning your head as well

    and turn your fucking MP3, GPS, Satnav machine/s off, concentrate on and be
    aware of your immediate surroundings

    seems to have worked for the majority of riders for a century

    ck

    the wheel doesn't look broken...........
     
    ck, Jul 7, 2006
    #33
  14. Stephen Calder

    Nev.. Guest

    Not really. When I start riding at 10kph slower than the average
    traffic speed I might need more than the brief glimpse of what's behind
    me that the mirrors give me. Until then I'll assume that the vast
    majority of dangerous situations are occurring in front of me and
    concentrate most of my attention there.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Jul 7, 2006
    #34
  15. Stephen Calder

    Rod Bacon Guest

    And for the minority that it didn't?

    On behalf of the rest of the world, I apologise for not being as
    fucking good as you obviously are.
     
    Rod Bacon, Jul 10, 2006
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  16. Stephen Calder

    ck Guest

    no, they must have been too busy fucking around with their gadgets

    paying attention to your immediate surroundings doesn't make you "better"
    than others......

    .....or maybe it does

    ck

    gadget free motorcycle and gear
     
    ck, Jul 10, 2006
    #36
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