Recommend a BMWDealer?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Grump, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. Grump

    Grump Guest

    My local dealer does not discount for cash & has quoted me a changeover
    price of around $27K trading in my '05, 30thouKm Blackbird on a
    K1200GT.Komfort.
    Not what I would consider a realistic offer. ( presentRRP 30,750+ORC)
    Ayone know of another NSW BMW dealer that will offer a cash discount with or
    without the trade-in?
    G
     
    Grump, Dec 28, 2007
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  2. Grump

    Will_S Guest

    sell the Blackbird privately


    but I have always received a fair shake form Citycoast Motorcycles in
    Wollongong
     
    Will_S, Dec 28, 2007
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  3. Grump

    Nev.. Guest

    That is probably as realistic an offer as you're going to get. You can
    subtract an easy $4K from whatever number you were anticipating, because
    Honda have reduced the rideaway price of the XX by about that much to
    clear stocks. Having said that, I have had much better trade-in offers
    from various dealers in Melbourne, comparatively, though still not that
    flash for an older, higher mileage XX.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Dec 28, 2007
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  4. Will_S is right: sell the 'Bird privately. However, are you sure the
    trade-in offer is such a bad deal? BMW don't quote RRP, they quote what
    they call 'List Price', which excludes dealer delivery, GST, stamp duty
    and registration.

    If I add all those to your $30,750 'List Price' I get something like
    $36,2000 ride away, so if they're offering $27,000 after the 'Bird
    trade-in, that's $9,000 trade-in, which is getting towards the top of
    the Red Book trade-in range for your model.

    Unless they mean $27,000 + ORC, in which case it *is* a crap offer.
     
    Andrew McKenna, Dec 28, 2007
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  5. Grump

    Grump Guest

    According to my dealer's paperwork:
    List price is $27,995
    GST is $2,795
    Retail Price is $30,750
    Changeover $27, (?something)
    So assuming I'll have to sell privately I'm still looking for a dealer
    willing to negotiate a discount for cash.
    Don't think my local bloke wants cash sales as he was trying to flog a local
    finance service as soon as I showed an interest in the K1200
    Regards,
    G.
     
    Grump, Dec 28, 2007
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Grump wrote:

    I hate to have to break the news to you Gump, but the days of getting a
    discount for cash have long gone for things like new BMWs.

    It might still work for buying dope, but not 30 grand of BM.

    They have subtly hinted that they don't want your Blackbird, and, at any
    reasonable price, nobody else wants your Blackbird either, since Honda
    themselves neatly undercut Blackbird prices.

    AFAIK, no other BM dealer is likely to undercut the BM prices. You may
    find that they'll have some wiggle room about pricing accessories (non
    BM) but I doubt it.

    Think of it as them doing you a favour.

    What can a K1200GT do four imes better than a Blackbird?

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Dec 28, 2007
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  7. Be Komfortable?
     
    Andrew McKenna, Dec 28, 2007
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  8. Grump

    bikerbetty Guest

    Drain large amounts of Kash from your bank account?

    betty
     
    bikerbetty, Dec 28, 2007
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  9. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Enable a couple in their mid-sixties to continue long distance touring in a
    reasonable degree of comfort.
    Our most recent trip from the NSW North Coast to Adelaide then along the Gt
    Ocean Rd to Melbourne & back home convinced us that the XX is a little too
    harsh on our aging bones.
    Wanting comfort, longevity, reliability & a reasonable degree of performance
    with minimal maintenance I've decided to spend the extra cash for what will
    probably be my last large motorcycle.
    G.
     
    Grump, Dec 28, 2007
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  10. Grump

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yep;
    "Had a look at a new Honda Blackbird & the BMW equivalent in
    capacity/performance (forget the model designation) & test rode both.
    Found I could have purchased two new Blackbirds for around $2K less than the
    one BMW.
    Now 18 months & over 30,000K later I've yet to experience a single problem
    with the 'Bird..."

    Why would you want a BMW when a Blackbird is so completely adequate?
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 28, 2007
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  11. Grump

    Biggus :) Guest

    So, in your opinion there are no other bikes out there that would suit
    your needs for under $30,000?

    Is the suspension the issue?
    You could spend a few grand on suspension on the budgie, then a new
    custom seat, raised bars, and keep 25,000 in your bank for
    travelling...
     
    Biggus :), Dec 28, 2007
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    justAL Guest

    Could spend a bit and find out it still isn't what you need or wanted.
    Go Grump, go!

    justAL
     
    justAL, Dec 28, 2007
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  13. Grump

    Biggus :) Guest

    Im sure for $10k he could make it more than he wanted, and still be
    better off :p
     
    Biggus :), Dec 28, 2007
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    It'd still be worth only $3k trade in though!
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 28, 2007
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  15. Grump

    Grump Guest

    Yep, 2 years back after pricing the Beemers I said exactly that, sold my K75
    then went ahead & bought the bird .
    Despite handlebar risers & a modified seat with extra padding & a dead sheep
    I still appreciate a rest every 2 hours while the missus starts hinting for
    a rest stop every hour or so by our 2nd day on the road.
    I've ridden most of the Jap offerings over the years & the K75 was the only
    bike I've had that I could ride non-stop all day without fatigue.
    So yesterday I took a Kumfort demo for an extended test ride, finding it
    rather bland after the bird but much more comfortable. .
    2-up extended touring for weeks on end is our objective & electric/auto
    suspension adjustment, cruise control, heated grips & adjustable handlebar
    height are added attractions.
    However I was still baulking at the price tag but this arvo after a little
    horse trading I was offered the fully equipped demo (7,00k on the clock) for
    just under $22K. Pick it up in the morning...
    G.
     
    Grump, Dec 28, 2007
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    CrazyCam Guest

    McWideGlide wrote:

    Mate, even if they gave me four motorcycles of my choice, absolutely
    free, living in the US is too high a price.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Dec 28, 2007
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  17. And besides, he hasn't taken the exchange rate into consideration.
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Dec 28, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    well then yer kin folk will be abe ta tell yer that it's not that easy
    to brung a veHikle back into Au-stralia...

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Dec 28, 2007
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  19. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:31:15 -0800
    In order to be let in the country it has to be pre '85, for off road
    use only (and boy do you have to document that) or you have had to
    have owned it overseas for a year, and been with it for that year.

    Oh and there's tax and duty to pay as well.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Dec 28, 2007
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  20. " Prior to making a decision to import your vehicle you should take into
    account the costs involved in the process such as: freight, Customs
    duties and entry processing charges, steam cleaning for quarantine
    purposes, other wharf and transport charges and any costs involved in
    having the vehicle meet state or territory registration requirements
    (whether your vehicle will indeed meet these requirements should be
    checked prior to importation). " (Australian Customs Web Site)

    Motorcycles (new or used) are exempt from Customs Duty but GST and all
    the remaining charges are still applicable. In addition you *must*
    modify the motorcycle to comply with local State or Territory
    registration requirements, which can be both time consuming and expensive.

    There's your missing third and then some.
     
    Andrew McKenna, Dec 29, 2007
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