Re: Harley Davidson Dyna ride height

(The Older Gentleman) wrote in

Or wheelie. That's a basic law of the Reeky universe (not to be
confused with any other universe...)

 

Hailwood?[/QUOTE]

I cycled past his grave earlier today. If he's making good times, I'm
fucking impressed.

 

Vito said...

And you missed my point completely.

 

Hailwood?[/QUOTE]

Did they wear kneepucks in Hailwood's era?

 

Did they wear kneepucks in Hailwood's era?[/QUOTE]

That'll be a whoosh, then.

 

That's a double whoosh back to you, I'm afraid.

 

Confused now!

 

Go back and read the op I was addressing. Yes, every good rider I know *touches*
a pad, usually going it to a corner in order to find the ground. Then they pull
it up again. That's a far cry from the op that claimed one couldn't lean
farther to change line because your knee would be too hard down against the
ground to allow it.

Naw .. I could give a MT-125 wheel a spin by hand and it'd continue to turn at
least 8-10 more revs. Otherwise I worked on it til it would. Can't comment on
the 5% number cuz I never actually measured it but that seems high for a racing
chain. Cite?

Whatever it is it's too much.

Down to the corner and back?

Y'all are missing the point. Your 600 will feel almost like a real racebike
until you approach 100% of its design capability, which is maybe 85% of a race
bikes. Between 99 and 100% it will give a very experienced rider a little
warning that most superbikers will ignore. Then at 101% it will highside and
either pitch you off or hammer you into the pavement. That's *treacherous*! By
contrast, a race bike will low side if you ignore all warnings and the older
bikes would complain too loudly to ignore.

Compared to what, a Chevy V8? But that's not the point. Weigh the head
assembly (valves, cams and all). Now put a lead weight of the same weight in
your tank bag and go ride for a month. Include some track time if you can. Now
remove the weight and get a hint of what your bike might handle like if it
weren't a 4-stroke.

 

Faced with irrefutable fact and logic the fool always resorts to personal
attack.

Given your love for bikes like these I understand why you find the truth so
offensive.

 

Like your Trophy 1200??

Or wheelie, right <wink>.

 

Sorry, kindly explain it better.

 

You're at once right and wrong. I've weighed between 240 and 260# most of my
life with body fat so low I can walk on the bottom of a pool and sink in a full
wet suit. I realized early on that prevented me from competing just as the
reverse kept some 198# weakling from being an effective weight lifter. So, like
Irv Kanamoto, I concentrated on learning as much about the mechanics and physics
of it as I could so as to help lighter, better riders go even faster. That
dosn't say I've never raced, just that I was unsatisfied to ride porky 500#
bikes and finish mid-pack in club events. There are prolly a few wives doing
the same. Some dudes I know keep smaller bois like you as wives.

What do you call a "reasonable level"?

That's too bad. I might be able to introduce you to some men who'd love you.

 

Sorry, there are prolly 1 or 2 who could.

 

Well, "surprisingly well for something the size of a marine bulk
carrier" is how I'd put it.

Right. <winks back>

 

What irrefutable fact? That all UJMs have too high a C of G? That's what
you said. And lowering the C of G makes the bike more prone to locked
front wheels as opposed to stoppies, which is clearly a Bad Thing.

And if you think that's a personal attack, you're wrong. It's merely
pointing out your mistake (which I see you snipped).

What truth is that, then?

 

What irrefutable fact? That all UJMs have too high a C of G? That's what
you said. And lowering the C of G makes the bike more prone to locked
front wheels as opposed to stoppies, which is clearly a Bad Thing.
[/QUOTE]
I think you're asking the monkey instead of the organ grinder. He'll
need to phone a friend before he answers this one.

 

On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:41:25 +0000,

It's the island weather I'm afraid!

 

Ah but the pad touches down.

Try it with a 530 chain. And friction increases with speed. You can't
compare spinning the wheel with the forces generated at 100mph.

Blahblahblah... "Real racebikes" these days are 4-strokes at the
pinnacle of MotoGP. They would completely obliterate any 2-stroke your
wife ever raced.

End of story.

 

Even I could spin a wheel at the equivalent of walking speed.

Try spinning one by hand at the equivalent of 120mph.

 

Yes, that's what I said, and I'll stick to that irrefutable truth.

It is? The only bikes I've owned that were prone to lock their front wheels
were BMWs. If you snatched the brake too hard the tire slid - with no immediate
ill effect. Easier for a tyro to deal with than a stoppie.

In a far less than gentlemanly way ....

Too much weight placed too high.