Re: Harley Davidson Dyna ride height

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 10, 2005.

  1. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    In your geographically limited experience, yes. But we define "tour"
    differently. We consider a time zone per day an easy ride. I might leave my
    East Coast home and be in Southern California, 3000 miles away, three days
    later having stopped for sex along the way. You?
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
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  2. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    ginge Guest

    That sounds easy enough. It's a shame you guys can't ride through
    several different countries in a day, then you'd realise we're not
    actually geographically limited.
     
    ginge, Dec 14, 2005
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  3. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    How far is it across Europe? 1000 miles? 2000? Hardly a jaunt here.

    But I agree. When I wanted to cross the US as fast as possible I chose a
    BMW RT and stuck to the interstate but I prefer to take 3 or 4 days to do
    the 3000 miles on back roads where I can enjoy the scenery, so I usually
    ride a H-D FLHTC. Mine is a 1990 model with over 150,000 miles.
    My wife had one of those til I totaled it. Worst handling most treacherous
    bike I've ever been on in my 50 years in the saddle. I sincerely urge you
    to sell it to someone you don't like.
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
  4. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    Ah, someone with a brain! We have some comparable twisties too but Europe
    has (and needs) nothing like our interstates and, lucky for you, nothing
    like our speed limits. Hence the best bike for you isn't the same as the
    best for me. In fact, our conditions vary so much that there is no one best
    bike for me. That's why I have to own four, borrow my wife's once in a
    while, and but for my busted up body would have to have a Ducati and a
    .......
    Great bike! Just sold one myself last fall after only 15,000 miles. Age
    and injuries catching up so I'm stuck with cruisers for the riding position
    for the forseeable future.
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
  5. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    Ya gotta have been there to understand. Most never will.
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
  6. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    Well for chrissake Guig, you'd have been at least as uncomfortable on any
    dirt bike no matter the brand.
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
  7. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    My RZ-350 was an all time favorite ... IF. I've travelled by car and
    motorhome. Compared to traveling by motorcyle both are like watching a
    travel-log on TV. Really!
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
  8. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    AndrewR Guest

    No, what our government did was think you could take x number of medium
    sized businesses, combine them into one huge business, stick 3 or 4 new
    layers of management at the top and nationalise the whole thing, so that
    there was no incentive or even requirement to be profitable and have a
    competitive business.
    Possibly, but to a large extent the British car industry tore itself apart.
    Many of the companies that formed British Leyland had been in direct
    competition with each other and continued to be after they merged - the
    Triumph Spitfire and the MG Midget went head to head, for example, as did
    the Austin Allegro and the Morris Ital.

    Industrial relations were bad, build quality was low, the industry was
    rapidly turning into its own tombstone ... to tax the Japanese for building
    reliable cars that people wanted to buy would have been a little curlish.

    Of course, if British Leyland had worked and had made good cars and had
    beaten the Japs at their own game then they might now be in the situation
    that Ford and GM find themselves in, where they're crippled by pension and
    healthcare responsibilities and are, one way or another, going to hit your
    government for seriously big bucks in the fairly near future.

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    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Dec 14, 2005
  9. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    Your lack of interest has kept you ignorant. Sportsters are essentially
    dirt bikes and have different frames and motors than full size H-Ds.
    Tourers have different frames than cruisers making them more suitable for
    long hours in the saddle. The steering pivot is actually forward of the
    forks. This allows more vertical forks to provide quick steering at
    parking-lot speeds but retains higher speed stability.
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
  10. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Wakko Guest

    I call bullshit. England is an island....and you know what we say about
    riding a scooter on an island...
     
    Wakko, Dec 14, 2005
  11. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Vito Guest

    I ve done the same dozens of times on H-Ds and BMW RTs - all in the US and
    Canada. I prefer the H-D because the BM doesn't tolerate a weeks luggage
    and bad weather gear as well. It handles better than the H-D until you load
    it up similarly then the difference mostly disappears. The H-Ds floorboards
    (vs pegs) and big seat allow one to move around an change position more,
    yielding more comfort for a long haul and the H-Ds weather protection is a
    tad better. Not important in Europe, but H-D has alot more dealers here so,
    even tho both are utterly reliable, there's a bit more peace of mind on a
    Harley. OTOH a H-D bagger begins to complain at much over 70MPH for long
    stretches and wear me out whilst the RT would run 100 tirelessly forever.
    And H-D has the only reliable stand.
     
    Vito, Dec 14, 2005
  12. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    AndrewR Guest

    Is it?

    Well that does explain the Severn bridge, I suppose.

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    The speccy Geordie twat.
     
    AndrewR, Dec 14, 2005
  13. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    WavyDavy Guest

    Ah! the great American sense of geography!

    England is *not* an island. Try looking at a map and see if you can work
    out why......

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Dec 14, 2005
  14. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    tallbloke Guest

    Wish I'd had the luxury of cruising at 70 on the trip I did. I was usually
    at 85 - 100mph keeping up with the rest of the crew. I was on a Dyna
    convertable so the peg position was more conventional European than feet
    forward. I liked the convertable because it was lighter round the front
    than a full dresser, which also gave it 1" more ground clearance.
     
    tallbloke, Dec 14, 2005
  15. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    tallbloke Guest

    LOL. I'll tell unless you buy the beer.
     
    tallbloke, Dec 14, 2005
  16. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    tallbloke Guest

    <raises hand> I told him.
     
    tallbloke, Dec 14, 2005
  17. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Lozzo Guest

    Whinging Courier said...
    Merkins make me laugh all the time. It's the repression they live under,
    yet they take all the "Land of freedom" bullshit from their politicians
    and believe it.
    I think it's funny that all they can citicise is our dental system and
    the fact they were too chicken to join in WW2 until they had their arses
    right royally kicked by the Japs at Pearl Harbour.

    I saw more Billy-Bob teeth in the 2 years I was working in USA than I've
    seen in the rest of my life, and their own record as far as winning wars
    alone isn't exactly great now, is it? Think Vietnam, Iraq etc.
     
    Lozzo, Dec 14, 2005
  18. I like that. Is it still a runner?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 14, 2005
  19. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Lozzo Guest

    Tony D said...
    5500 miles a year, that's *really* heavy mileage. You must have gone to
    the shops a hell of a lot of times.
     
    Lozzo, Dec 14, 2005
  20. Wicked Uncle Nigel

    Lozzo Guest

    tallbloke said...
    I've ridden rubber mounted ones, they still vibrate worse than any Jap
    or European bike I've ever ridden, and in this job I get to ride all the
    latest models as they arrive at the dealers.
     
    Lozzo, Dec 14, 2005
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