Re: Harley Davidson Dyna ride height

Not really, because then you end up making too much bespoke stuff, holding
too large a stock and having an overly complicated manufacturing system.

You might create a business that your customers think is wonderful, but
you're unlikely to be anywhere near as profitable as somebody who spends
advertising revenue convincing the customers that they want what the
manufacturer is going to give them anyway.

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The speccy Geordie twat.

 

Oh, but I have.

IOW, you know nothing and have nothing except an asshole and an
opinion, both of which stink. You're a typical usenet fool.

 

Only a Britiot would mistake a Sportster for a dresser. Beside,
dumbass, even the Sportsters are *NOW* rubber-mounted.

Bzzzzzt.

Try again, fool.

 

What is a Britiot?

Is it supposed to be a play on idiot?

Anyway, you lot think you'll be able to find any common ground any time
soon?

 

LOL.

 

Wow. You've just managed to describe perfectly the difference between
what the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers do in the U.S. in terms of
manufacturing and marketing and what Harley-Davidson has done since
1983.

Quick! Which is the business that is "doing well?"

 

In fact Harley are very clever at modularising their production so thay
can offer a wide variety of models and a system of accessories which will
fit on all of them. In a marketplace where the punters like to think of
themselves as individualists, being able to spec your own machine is a big
plus and Harley have done well out of it. When you comment on
profitability remember that the bikes are the flagship product, and Harley
make more out of accessories these days...

 

Melvin F. () wrote:
: Guig wrote:
: > Pish! I did a 120 mile run on an HD1200 in the US a couple of years
: > back and it was fine for the first hour or so then the vibration, and
: > stupid seating position made the rest of the journey intolerable. Glad
: > to get rid of the thing at the finish up, my Bandit would have done
: > the job more easily and in more comfort than a Hardly Ableson.

: Only a Britiot would mistake a Sportster for a dresser.

Maybe that's cos we are (mostly) not at all interested in Harleys.
Some have fairings to make them look like tourers and some have alloy
wheels to make them look 'sporty' but they're all cruisers.

Blair
'03 R1150GS
'97 CBR600

 

Well I wasn't specifically talking about H-D, or any other company.

I was just saying that, generally, it's a better business model to bang out
everything identical.



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(B.G. Finlay) wrote in

I did 7000 miles in 15 days on a harley dyna 'dresser'. Something I would
not have attempted on one of the non rubber mounted unit engined sporster
models. If Guig (or you) doesn't want to get called out for displaying
his ignorance, he shouldn't display it.

 

Any colour you want so long as it's black. And burns rice.

 

tallbloke () wrote:
: I did 7000 miles in 15 days on a harley dyna 'dresser'. Something I would
: not have attempted on one of the non rubber mounted unit engined sporster
: models. If Guig (or you) doesn't want to get called out for displaying
: his ignorance, he shouldn't display it.

Was this in the US or Europe? And would your trip have been better/worse
/same on a Pan/FJR/RT?

Blair
'03 R1150GS
'97 CBR600

 

(B.G. Finlay) wrote in

Europe. I swapped around for a few hours here and there with other riders
on the same trip, and had a go on an RF suzuki, a Buell, a Triumph Trophy, a
Ducati ST2, and I can honestly say that for the insane daily mileage we were
covering, I'm glad I had the laid back riding position of the Harley. I'm
sure the bikes you mention would be fine for the trip, but I have back
problems, and for me, the Harley was just right with a tent and sleeping
roll on the rear saddle to lean against.

 

I found any of the foot forward style riding positions made me very
uncomfortable within seconds of sitting on them - let alone minutes or
hours. Quite literally could feel the pain starting in my back.

For me, feet directly below (or even sports bike slightly behind) is much
more comfortable for my back.

I guess the point is everyone's different

 

Greek Shipping Magnets wrote:
snip

<Ahem>

So, after you'd bombed them, who was it that designed built most of your
early missiles and spacecraft then?

Just wondering.

 

Why they did. But they wouldn't have given up on silly nationalistic
passion in exchange for simple profit driven relations without showing
them how futile their leader's efforts are.

Like the old saying goes. If you can't beat them, join them. We make
sure no one can beat us and voila, the world is beating a path to your
door.

The toothpaste cap turns counter-clockwise.

 

True. But unless you can afford to sell the house and pack it all up
when things turn authoritarian it's do as they say.

Nah. About the same. What's worse is the automated enforcement. Over
there the wankers consider it as good as gold.

Also we have lawyers. And plea bargains. Over there they like to toss
the book around with no excuses entertained.

Hope you don't try that business in the Northeast lad!

I remember being waaaaaaaaaaaay out in the boonsticks. I mean like NY
resevoir system boonies. Where the scavengers will have their way with
your semi-comatose body if you mess up.

I also remember this beautiful road tracing one of the aquifers. Many
miles away was this awesome chicane coming up on a mini-bridge. Smack
in the middle of the lake. The squid in me immediately lept for it.
But something said "not quite right" so I resisted the urge to apex
it. Too easy. Too inviting. Too perfect to be real!

There, in the middle of nowhere was a nice black squad car with a
Trooper sitting inside. The kind that ruins your day with their
sourpuss demeanor. He was perfectly aligned so you couldn't see him
until you had a knee down and a helmet cocked.

I of course was tooling along at a precise 5mph over. Not enough to
tag me on, but enough over to feign ignorance of his presence and
prevent the old "naziing your papers" routine for no reason other than
you actually doing the limit.

 

And your point, Sir, is precisely what, pray? What outfitter of what? BTW,
I wasn't taking an ill- [or, indeed, well-] informed swipe at HD. They have
their place, and they look and sound great - particularly thundering in
convoy through Montana, which is where I came across a grillion of them just
before Sturgis a few years ago. I wouldn't want one, here in TonyBliarland.
There again, I wouldn't want a Ducati or a Gixxer either, but I *will* take
an HD up the Pacific Coast Highway next year - and I *will* enjoy it [1].
Over here, HD have an image, deserved or undeserved, of being bought
predominantly by posers and wannabes playing at being Americans. Yes, you
have your fair share of posers and wannabes in LeftPondia, but HDs tend to
be used more frequently and more effectively.

[1] Dunno when. Sister's getting married, but hasn't fixed a date yet.

 

Certainly not. The attack RR countered with his tariff was not cheap bikes
at cheap prices it was good quality sold at less than the cost of production
& distribution with the difference subsidized by the Jap governement.

Your government unwisely got into a contest with Japan to see who could
outsubsidize the other and lost. If they'd have applied tariffs instead, as
RR did, we might still be able to buy these excellent vehicles. I enjoyed
several MGs, including a DOHC MGA and an MGB, lusted for a Mini-Cooper and
still have a T140 Triumph and an Enfield Bullet - the latter from India of
course.

Of course! One can hardly expect more in a few paragraphs here on reeky.

 

You obviously don't know what a "tourer" is. Hint: an FJR isn't one.

I used to ride my FLHTC 70 miles to work each way, every day, rain or shine,
hot or cold, in reasonable comfort. One can't do that on an FJR.

Nor have you ever visited a H-D dealer.