RBR Wales - long.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Salad Dodger, Jun 3, 2004.

  1. Salad Dodger

    Salad Dodger Guest

    Set off BH Monday lunchtime, and trundled through London, out to the
    M40. Simple enough journey past Oxford, then up to Traitor's Ford,
    where the "incident" happened.

    Linda did the sensible thing, and got off. Muggins, in a fit of
    artistic bent, decided the photo would look best with the Wing parked
    "in" the Ford, not next to it. So I walked it in, and the front just
    washed out, no warning. Bang. I got off as it went down, and was left
    stood in an inch or two of water, with a GoldWing at 45deg to the
    vertical. Hmmm.

    Two substantial bodies proved adequate for the lift, and there was no
    hint of slippage, which was weird. I started it, stuck it in gear, and
    "walked" it out of the ford.

    Scraping the mud and gloop off the crash bars showed no sign of
    damage. Well done, Mr Honda.

    Photo taken, it was off down some windy little roads, to Teddington
    Hands, to get a photo of the Fingerpost. Easy, that, even if the
    surroundings were a little overgrown.

    Next on the list was Grosmont castle. Linda is apparently of the
    opinion that one hasn't visited a castle until one's been into every
    ruined tower, and up every rickety staircase. Chalk up another 20
    points.

    Final call of the day, was "Water-breaks-its-neck" waterfall, near
    Radnor. Cue marriage straining incident #1.

    Having missed the turning, due the sign being obscured by the bushes,
    we turned around, and then made our way up the gravel strewn track to
    the carpark for the waterfall. Whilst I was retrieving the landmark
    card, and camera, her ladyship sets off up the trail. Photo taken, I'm
    about to track after her when a car hoves into view.

    To cut a long story short, the occupants informed me that the
    waterfall was about 200m down the hill, turn left, and follow the
    stream, for another 200m.

    I set off to retrieve Linda. And fail. Until she reaches the crest of
    the climb, some 500m into the woods, up a very steep hill. We continue
    along the trail, until it crosses the stream (no sign of any
    waterfall), and descend the other side of the valley. How we didn't
    fall, on the wet mud is still a mystery.

    As we slither and slide to the base of the hill, we're confronted with
    the legend "Waterfall: 200m". Oops.

    It really is a nice waterfall, and well worth a 200m walk. Whether
    it's worth a 1700m cross country trek is a different matter entirely.

    On the way back down the main road, we saw a sight that lifted the
    spirits, somewhat. In the field to our left, was a herd of cows. among
    their number were about ten calves. As we went past, they set off in
    what seemed to be a race. Full gallop, down the field, round the
    "bend" at the end, and up the side. Quite peculiar, it was, and rather
    comical.

    From the waterfall, we set off towards the next landmark, in hope of
    finding lodgings for the night. The Fforest Inn, on the junction of
    the A44/481, proved more than adequate. Good food, decent ale, and a
    comfy bed. Pity our jackets didn't fully dry out overnight.

    4 landmarks, 70 points, and 225 miles.

    Tuesday dawned bright and sunny. After breakfast, we set off to find
    Devil's Staircase. Oh, what fun. A one in four hill, with about four
    switchbacks, two up, on a Wing, is definitely a challenge. Especially
    when you realise you've gone too far, and have to turn round and
    descend again. Further challenged by the fact that the Wing wouldn't
    remain stationary, even in gear, when parked, I let Linda get off to
    take the photo. The good news was then compounded by the discovery
    that the route to the next landmark was back up the hill.

    A very nervous nine-point turn was negotiated *before* Linda deigned
    to remount, and a clutch busting pull away was executed.

    Going down the other side, I decided to save the brakes, and rely on
    engine braking - 1st gear, 1:4 descent, 21mph. Quite impressive, I
    guess. Anyway, the road from Devil's Staircase to Llandovery around
    the Llyn Brianne reservoir is well worth the effort. Glorious scenery,
    and our first (of many) sightings of red kites, soaring on thermals,
    looking for a tasty snack. What an impressive looking bird.

    The run down to Gower was otherwise dull, and the landmark itself (a
    "restored" lime kiln) was hidden away in the midst of a scout camp.
    Behind a padlocked gate. Grrr.

    Retracing our route out of Gower took us to Pendine Sands - erstwhile
    home of land speed record attempts. The museum there, which was the
    landmark, was closing in 20 minutes, so we didn't go in, which was a
    pity.

    Braving the coastal gales, and ridiculously steep roads, we set off in
    search of Llawhaden castle. Piece of cake, this one, though some of
    the roads are a bit narrow. The castle itself is better preserved than
    most, and I leave Linda to charge all around it while I man the
    camera, and refreshments. :)

    From Llawhaden, it was along the Cardigan Bay coast, then inland at
    Aberystwyth, taking the A44 to Ponterwyd. Second fill-up of the day
    here, before setting off to Nant-y-moch reservoir. In the car park by
    the dam is a plaque commemorating Owain Glyndwr's victory over the
    English in 1411. Talk about bearing a grudge. They're as bad as the
    Scots. Agincourt is different, of course.

    Photo taken, we continued along the little reservoir road, before
    settling in to the White Lion in Machynnleth for the night.
    Unremarkable pub, iffy grub, not cheap.

    5 landmarks, 130 points, 266 miles.

    Another sunny day on Wednesday, and it began with a short jaunt up the
    A487/494 to Rhydymain, to find the memorial to the crew of a crashed
    Mosquito. The memorial itself is the remnants of one of the Merlin
    engines, and, judging by the state of it, it spent some time driving
    TOG's mower.

    From there it was back up into the mountains, to find Eidda's Well. It
    might be a well, but you wouldn't catch me drinking out of it.

    Next stage was the long haul out to Anglesey, to find a standing stone
    (Fadog Frech) in a field. Simple. On the way back Linda decided it
    would be a good idea to pay a surprise visit to her brother in Bangor.
    The GPS guided us right to the door. :)

    A cup of coffee later, and it was another long slog along the A55 to
    find the OLD castle at Hawarden. On the way, I thought I saw a wind
    farm out in the sea. Is that right? I presume it's off the end of the
    Wirral.

    Anyway, the old castle is in the grounds of the new one, which is a
    country park. Another park up, and trudge through a cow field, then.
    In the sunshine. Oh joy. The castle itself is hidden behind trees,
    with no obvious path leading up to it. I opted for the arty shot
    through the trees.

    From there it was to the ford at World's End, via Horseshoe Pass,
    which was very scenic. The ford itself was quite grippy, and I *did*
    get the shot with bike in the water.

    Back on the bike, and contemplating the ride home, I knew the next,
    and last, two were "on the way", so, despite having found no
    references to them on the web, we set off anyway.

    Finding the totem pole at Gledrid was as easy as falling off a log,
    and the "Roadside cross or memorial , Nr Nesscliffe", is rather more
    "near" than the clue might suggest. Well, the one I saw is.

    From there it was a steady charge down the A5/M54/M6/M1/A1. One stop
    for fuel, and another to ease aching arses, and we were home by 10:15.

    Top marks to the bloke in the Smart car which held a steady 85-90 for
    the entire length of the M54. "powered by Mercedes-Benz" indeed. I bet
    Coulthard and Raikkonnen would like an engine that could run that
    long.

    7 landmarks, 150 points, 417 miles.

    So, the whole of Wales in two and a half days. Top fun.

    I guess the Wing deserves a clean, now. And a new front tyre, by the
    look of it. Especially as it's done >17.5k miles. Good stuff, these
    Bridgestones.

    16 landmarks, 350 points, and 908 miles in all.

    Only Scotland, the North, East Anglia and the West Country to go,
    then. Ho hum. Oh, and Hants & Sussex.
    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..66073../..15556.../..3157./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17
    '^' RBR-Visited:35 Pts: 705 Miles:2429
     
    Salad Dodger, Jun 3, 2004
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. Salad Dodger

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Excellent reading - as usual.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 3, 2004
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. Salad Dodger

    Lozzo Guest

    Salad Dodger says...

    <snip epic journey>

    Excellent work, up to your usual high standard. Glad you had fun and no-
    one got hurt when the Wing decided it wanted a bath.
    You managed to find all that is good about Wales in 2 1/2 days. So why
    do people choose to spend their whole lives there?
     
    Lozzo, Jun 3, 2004
    #3
  4. I'm with Linda on this one. I still cant believe that Ive just spent
    six days in Ireland and didnt get to visit one castle. Andy just got
    me out of grumpy mode by finding an ancient ruined monastery.

    --
    Adie
    (replace spam with nickname to reply)

    UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/

    Triumph 955iSS / GSF600 bandit
    MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22
     
    Adrienne M Jenn, Jun 3, 2004
    #4
  5. Salad Dodger

    MattG Guest

    I wouldn't think you'd need to travel that far to find something ancient
    and ruined.
     
    MattG, Jun 3, 2004
    #5
  6. Salad Dodger

    Salad Dodger Guest

    He must have blended into the scenery quite well, then ;-)

    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..66073../..15556.../..3157./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17
    '^' RBR-Visited:35 Pts: 705 Miles:2429
     
    Salad Dodger, Jun 3, 2004
    #6
  7. Salad Dodger

    Salad Dodger Guest

    I forgot: we had lunch at the caffi at
    Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, just
    because we could.

    Best fish and chips I've had in *years*.
    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..66073../..15556.../..3157./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17
    '^' RBR-Visited:35 Pts: 705 Miles:2429
     
    Salad Dodger, Jun 3, 2004
    #7
  8. Salad Dodger

    wessie Guest

    Champ wrote in
    It's not uncommon in young cattle, horses & deer.
     
    wessie, Jun 3, 2004
    #8
  9. Salad Dodger

    wessie Guest

    Salad Dodger wrote in
    Grosmont area is lovely. Had a bimble through there last weekend
    A481 from Fforest inn to Builth Wells is one of my favourites
    Heh. I have not taken GPZ/Steve H etc along there, yet. I'm looking
    forward to the conversations after I sneak it in.
    Agreed. A very pleasant loop around the reservoir. If you get the
    chance, the road through to Tregaron is worth the ride too. There's a
    red kite centre at Tregaron where dozens of the buggers appear for the
    feeding frenzy.

    Nant-y-moch. I got a puncture last time I rode around there. Lovely
    road. Riding 8 miles on a semi inflated tyre to Ponterwyd was
    interesting.
    As others have said, an interesting account.
     
    wessie, Jun 3, 2004
    #9
  10. Salad Dodger

    SteveH Guest

    We did it ourselves a couple of Sundays ago....

    Linked brakes <shudder>
     
    SteveH, Jun 3, 2004
    #10
  11. Salad Dodger

    Salad Dodger Guest

    The Wing's got linked brakes.

    Shut the throttle, if you're that concerned.
    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..66073../..15556.../..3157./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17
    '^' RBR-Visited:35 Pts: 705 Miles:2429
     
    Salad Dodger, Jun 4, 2004
    #11
  12. Salad Dodger

    wessie Guest

    SteveH wrote in
    Rider <rubbish>
     
    wessie, Jun 4, 2004
    #12
  13. Salad Dodger

    Preston Kemp Guest

    One of my favourite trailriding routes. If you follow the trail West
    towards Dolau, you eventually come to a natural bowl at the end of a
    valley - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/preston.kemp/Image9.jpg. The pic
    doesn't do it justice - it's huge. I used to have hours of fun trying to
    get that R80GS up the side!

    There's supposed to be the remains of a Wellington bomber somewhere
    around there, but I've been trailriding in that area for 30 years and
    never found it.
    A few hundred yards down from the Fforest Inn is the church where I got
    married, next to the Red Lion pub. The Red Lion used to be run by a top
    chef & the food was stunning. Unfortunately he sold up & it's shit now
    :-(
     
    Preston Kemp, Jun 4, 2004
    #13
  14. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Salad Dodger
    Nice read.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 4, 2004
    #14
  15. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrienne M Jenn
    They're all over the shop. Next time you're over, have a look at Kells
    Priory for something a bit different from the ordinary castley-type
    thing. I wandered around this a couple of years ago and found it utterly
    absorbing.

    http://www.kellsvillage.bravepages.com/priory.htm

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 4, 2004
    #15
  16. Salad Dodger

    sweller Guest


    How would linked brakes have an effect on your Sunday pootle? I can see
    the merits of an argument for race or track use, but road?

    I have a bike with linked brakes and charge about on it at full tilt and
    at the limit of its handling and performance [1].

    I find the linked give a very stable platform for such stupidity as
    braking in a corner fully cranked over.

    Importantly they allow me to go into a corner, quickly, without the
    suspension banging or flexing all over the place. This is a major
    consideration on a machine with a relatively high unsprung weight and
    35mm forks. Coupled with a need to keep entry speeds high as it just
    can't spin the motor up fast enough to go for the point a squirt method.

    So I feel that your "Linked brakes <shudder>" remark is made without any
    real understanding of what you're talking about.


    [1] A fairly predictable limit which allows it still cut the mustard
    with capable modern machinery.
     
    sweller, Jun 4, 2004
    #16
  17. Salad Dodger

    dwb Guest

    Come on Steve - what a crock of shit - Dodger managed it on a Gold Wing, two
    up.

    You don't think maybe the issue here is the same one that cropped up with
    the fuel tap/reserve.. ie you/confidence/something else.
     
    dwb, Jun 4, 2004
    #17
  18. Salad Dodger

    dwb Guest

    So nothing to do with being worried about pies?
     
    dwb, Jun 4, 2004
    #18
  19. Salad Dodger

    dwb Guest

    A good read indeed.

    You continue to amaze me in terms of what you can get that Gold Wing to do
    :)
     
    dwb, Jun 4, 2004
    #19
  20. Salad Dodger

    HooDooWitch Guest

    Salad Dodger <> somehow managed to post:

    Probably a request *Ginge* but...

    Is there a URL detailing the route/point of this odyssey?
     
    HooDooWitch, Jun 4, 2004
    #20
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.