(Rant) DIY Butchers

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by crn, May 14, 2009.

  1. crn

    crn Guest

    Got the bits for the Bantam so time to put it back together.
    This should be in a FAQ.

    <rant>
    Why is it that DIY mechanics like to pry engines apart with a bloody
    screwdriver ?.

    Listen up you bunch of cupid stunts

    To disassemble an engine READ THE BLOODY INSTRUCTIONS.
    After removing the necessary bolts and screws it should come apart
    easily with a GENTLE tap from a RUBBER hammer.
    If it does not come apart you are doing something wrong.

    NEVER EVER under any circumstances try to pry it open.

    The crankcase halfs and most covers have specially flat mating surfaces
    and if you damage them the bloody thing will never hold oil again.

    Stop messing around and give the bloody job to a professional before
    you **** it up.
    </rant>

    Goes back to flatplate and plastic metal.
    Another bodge job.
     
    crn, May 14, 2009
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  2. crn

    Greybeard Guest

    35 years ago, when I worked as a mechanic, this problem was always rearing
    it's ugly head.
    Seems lessons still have not been learnt ;o(

    I guess these new-fangled rubber mallet things just stop the ringing in the
    ears when whacking a screwdriver in the joint!

    --
    Greybeard

    FLHR -03 UK (95 cu-in Stg 2. Big Boy 2!)

    Garmin Zumo 550, To get me home!

    ukrm@foxtails[dot]co[dot]uk
     
    Greybeard, May 14, 2009
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  3. crn

    T i m Guest

    I love it when I find a tatty bike that hasn't been 'worked on' by
    some knob as at least I know it's *just* wear-and-tear I've gotta deal
    with.

    Stripped threads, wrong bolts, missing bolts, distorted material,
    missing components and bodged repairs making a proper repair even more
    difficult.

    Yesterday I watched someone put a crank back in an engine casing.
    Casing heated 'just enough' over a Baby Belling stove then placed on
    wooden blocks, crank aligned with casing and gently lowered into
    place. Nice. ;-)

    I replaced a helical clutch spring on my Ex's Honda C50LA (three speed
    automatic) under a warrantee / recall. I asked to do it myself (they
    gave me the bits) as I wasn't happy with the cleanliness of their
    workshop at the time. It was like a sewing machine in there and I'm
    pleased to say it went back together suitably clean. ;-)

    T i m.
     
    T i m, May 14, 2009
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  4. You and me both.
    Amen brother.

    How could I ever forget the GT380 that had carpet underlay as air filter
    elements?
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 14, 2009
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  5. crn

    malc Guest

    ?????? Well I *suppose* it's better than nothing.

    --
    Malc

    Rusted and ropy.
    Dog-eared old copy.
    Vintage and classic,
    or just plain Jurassic:
    all words to describe me.
     
    malc, May 14, 2009
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  6. Not much. The bike just choked at 6000rpm. It felt like a blocked air
    filter, so I had a look inside the air box and...

    ....wtf was this? Fastened round the mesh cores with cable ties?

    It was, yes, carpet underlay. Which is closed foam. It's amazing the
    thing ran at all. I just got somer of that K&N sheet, cut it to size,
    glued it in place, and the difference was amazing.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 14, 2009
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  7. crn

    SD Guest

    Have you been examining my GoldWing?
     
    SD, May 14, 2009
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  8. crn

    platypus Guest

    Angle grinder.
     
    platypus, May 14, 2009
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  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    Bodger.

    A small amount of C4 lowered through the oil filler hole and detonated
    will work every time.

    It may take a little experimentation to get the charge just so, but
    that's what Bantam cases are for.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 14, 2009
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  10. crn

    T i m Guest

    Hehe.

    My R100RT had hardly been touched (good times) but whenever I tried to
    remove something held on with 4 bolts 3 would undo and one would
    always try to shear / strip / round (bad times).

    T i m
     
    T i m, May 14, 2009
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  11. crn

    T i m Guest

    No!

    On a similar note when checking this MZ over I found whoever had last
    looked at the air filter had trapped the rubber sheet from the battery
    tray behind the outer cover, meaning the air was coming in from
    everywhere and possibly not through the filter at all. ;-(

    Maybe what's why the carb could be worn out!

    Oh, and the spring that sits on the rear brake pedal rod was just
    sliding up and down the rod? Where tf did the washer go? Probably the
    same place as one of the n/s foot peg carrier bolts and the two 5m
    socket headed machine screws that held the n/s upper fairing mount
    under the top yoke. And an insert that stopped the plastic front
    mudguard getting crushed when you tighten the bolt though the leg lug
    can't just fall out with the bolt still in place can it?

    All those things were right when the bike left me 70k km's ago. ;-)

    T i m
     
    T i m, May 14, 2009
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  12. crn

    platypus Guest

    The angle grinder is to cut cross-hatch diagonal grooves in the casings, so
    you get a nice fragmentation pattern when the charge goes off.
     
    platypus, May 14, 2009
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  13. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    ooh, classy.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 14, 2009
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  14. crn

    Hog Guest

    Paging Bee, Bee to the red telephone please
     
    Hog, May 15, 2009
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  15. while I agree with the general principle, I've seen things which should come
    apart, with all the fixin's removed, yet which were stuck to the point where
    the gentle approach had to be followed up with more force.

    Prying without thought, though, and damaging gasket faces, is as you say
    stupid.
     
    Austin Shackles, May 15, 2009
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  16. crn

    Champ Guest

    Standard practice with japanese engines, I think.

    Certainly present on jap engines from the 70s and 80s that I've had a
    apart.
     
    Champ, May 15, 2009
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  17. crn

    darsy Guest

    Oh.

    I thought this was going to be a thread started by TOG about his
    pig...
     
    darsy, May 15, 2009
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  18. crn

    platypus Guest

    I was about to mention the Z200.
     
    platypus, May 15, 2009
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  19. crn

    zymurgy Guest

    AOL, or some sort of animal, not necessarily TOG's

    P.
     
    zymurgy, May 15, 2009
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  20. crn

    zymurgy Guest

    Yes, but only after ensuring *every* bolt has been removed. [1]

    Paul.

    [1] Never done it myself, but it's been close on occasion, with some
    hidden bolt, lurking somewhere,
     
    zymurgy, May 15, 2009
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