Lozzo scribbled on the back of a napkin: [QUOTE] Bear says... There's the rub, those who ask about quiet helmets are usually those that want to wear them without earplugs. If they won't help themselves, then I'm not prepared to help them. I can only advise them to wear plugs whatever helmet they buy.[/QUOTE] I know you said "usually" up there and that's probably the "get out" clause here but there are still very valid reasons why people would ask for a quiet helmet. For example, I do wear earplugs on the bike all the time even in town, but I'm still trying to buy the quietest possible helmet as I'm rather sensitive to noise and I've had migraines triggered by that kind of noise. Not saying you're wrong, just pointing out that there may well be other valid reasons why people are trying to reduce the noise levels inside the helmet...