Quiet helmets

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Stonge, May 25, 2004.

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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Maybe I'm just a flid, but I can't seem to roll them so they fit.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 26, 2004
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    M J Carley Guest

    There isn't much about on helmet noise generally, but a decent
    university library should have:

    @Article{lower-hurst-claughton-thomas94,
    author = {M. C. Lower and D. W. Hurst and A. R. Claughton and
    A. Thomas},
    title = {Sources and levels of noise under motorcyclists'
    helmets},
    journal = {Proceedings of the Institute of Acoustics},
    year = 1994,
    volume = 16,
    number = 2,
    pages = {319--326}
    }

    @InProceedings{lower-hurst-thomas96,
    author = {M. C. Lower and D. W. Hurst and A. Thomas},
    title = {Noise levels and noise reduction under motorcycle
    helmets},
    booktitle = {Proceedings of Internoise 96},
    pages = {979--982},
    year = 1996
    }

    @Article{mccombe-binnington-nash94,
    author = {A. W. McCombe and J. A. Binnington and D. Nash},
    title = {Wind noise and motorcycle crash helmets},
    journal = Journal of Low Frequency Noise and Vibration,
    year = 1994,
    volume = 13,
    number = 2,
    pages = {49--57},
    abstract = {An investigation was undertaken into the source and
    levels of wind noise in motorcycle helmets, and
    their sound attenuation characteristics. All noise
    measurements increased in a linear fashion when
    plotted against log 10 speed. Low frequency wind
    noise displayed a greater rate of increase than
    vehicle noise and surpassed it and the recommended 8
    hour occupational maximum of 90dB(A) at
    approximately 17m/s (40mph/68kph) to reach levels of
    111dB(A) at 44m/s (100mph/170kph). There were no
    statistical differences in the sound levels for
    different motorcycles, riding position or helmet
    fit. There were small but significant differences
    between helmet types. A wind tunnel analysis
    indicates a turbulent boundary layer as the sound
    source.

    As currently designed, a typical motorcycle crash
    helmet provides no useful sound attenuation below
    2000 Hertz and thus little protection against the
    damaging effects of wind noise. It is suggested that
    improvements in helmet attenuation characteristics
    would go some way to addressing this problem.}
    }

    @Article{ross89,
    author = {B. C. Ross},
    title = {Noise exposure of motorcyclists},
    journal = Annals of Occupational Hygiene,
    year = 1989,
    volume = 33,
    number = 1,
    pages = {123--127},
    abstract = {This study was designed to evaluate noise exposure
    of motorcyclists at work. Open and full face safety
    helmets were compared and the effects of helmet
    design and the contribution of radio intercoms
    investigated. Special measuring equipment is
    described and hearing protection discussed.

    Previous studies concentrated mainly on the
    attenuation of noise by safety helmets, and were
    made under conditions untypical of day-to-day
    motorcycling.

    During town driving the sample equivalent continuous
    noise level (s.leq) ranged from 63 to 90 dB(A), the
    intercom giving the highest peak levels. On the open
    road s.leq was up to 105 dB(A); exposure to this
    level for only 15 min would exceed the present
    reccomended maximum of 90 dB(A) for an 8 h working
    day.}
    }

    @Book{cost:trl97,
    author = {{European Cooperation in Scientific and Technical
    Research} and {Transport Research Laboratory}},
    title = {Motorcycle safety helmets: {A} literature review},
    publisher = {Transport Research Laboratory},
    year = 1997
    }
     
    M J Carley, May 26, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    <snip four other publications>

    You've got to love UKRM, haven't you.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 26, 2004
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    M J Carley Guest

    If I had students who were interested, I'd be running a project on
    helmet noise at the minute and I could give you measurements.
     
    M J Carley, May 26, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Indeed- it's amazing how much more impressive the noise is for about 1/4 of
    the speed.

    I ordered far too many EAR soft ones two years ago - still have loads of
    them so I have no issues with a new pair each time :)
     
    dwb, May 26, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    I couldn't get on with the ones on a stick, but I like the roll up ones.

    It's good that we're not all the same...
     
    dwb, May 26, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Must have funny shaped ear canals. I find the 'straight' ones very
    difficult to get in properly, but the shaped type (like the Max's
    referred to elsewhere) work fine, albeit sometimes taking a couple of
    attempts and needing to be held in place until they've re-expanded.

    Worth the effort though - once I'd started using them (about 15 years
    ago) I won't normally ride without them. I forgot them a few weeks
    back when coming to work on the gixxer and was reminded how much
    ringing in the ears I used to get all the time, a sure sign that the
    noise levels are potentially harmful.
     
    Ace, May 26, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    try more lubrication.
     
    darsy, May 26, 2004
    #28
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    darsy Guest

    it was also extremely gay, and suited you down to the ground.
    especially for you novelty-condom heads.
     
    darsy, May 26, 2004
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    andrewr Guest

    No, you have to look like a flid to make them fit properly, because you have to
    reach over the top of your head and pull your ear upwards while inserting the
    plugs.

    If you don't then they just don't seem to fit properly.

    Is it the same for the plugs onna stick?

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    andrewr, May 26, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    How did your aerodynamics thing work out? ISTR that a couple of
    people from here weighed in with bikes to test.
     
    Ben Blaney, May 26, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    It certainly is - for you lot. Having read what Ace has said, I'm not
    only a flid, but a deformed one. But I guess you knew that!
     
    Ben Blaney, May 26, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    <gulp>
     
    Ben Blaney, May 26, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    To an extent, I think. I can do my right ear one-handed, but I have
    to use both hands on the left ear because my left hand really is a
    flid (hence the end of my piano-playing days).
     
    Ben Blaney, May 26, 2004
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    That's it - when you buy in bulk, they're so fucking cheap!
     
    Ben Blaney, May 26, 2004
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    PeterT Guest

    Stonge
    My helmet was very quiet since SO moved to the Philippines.

    HTH
     
    PeterT, May 26, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Why not ask us for volunteers again?

    I suppose when I was 19 I wouldn't have been interested either - I would now
    though.

    As Ben said, what were the results (1) from the wind tunnel testing.


    (1) aside from being fat/wide slows you down :)
     
    dwb, May 26, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Theres a definite 'feeling' when they're in properly - as opposed to just
    stuck in your ear. Course then you could be a muppet like me and push them
    in too far and then spend awhile trying to find a pair of pliers/stick etc
    just before you're supposed to be signing up for a track day, whilst the
    person you're with texts people telling them you're a mong with a stuck ear
    plug.

    A bit of spit on the ear plug helps too, but apparently this is very bad for
    your ears - though I notice Rossi does it.
     
    dwb, May 26, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    I found the quality variable in terms of how long they stay rolled up - most
    are okay but someone just don't stay rolled up and are impossible to get in.
     
    dwb, May 26, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    As many others have said, I do for any journey of more than 20 miles
    or so.

    I also use them racing, where I find they improve my ability to
    concentrate significantly.
     
    Champ, May 26, 2004
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