Quick Question

There's a shim removal tool on EBay that is being listed as for use with
Triumph T3 engines. Do you need a specific tool for the engine your working
on? And how do you use these things anyway?

 

Quite often, although, make do and bodge are always the best option.

If you need to ask...

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Big screwdriver, bent pliers, magnetonnastick. Lump of 1/4 plate to
molish levers out of, clamps, cramps and pingfuckits.

... it doesn't make much sense without the gestures.

 

That made the morning lighter.

Si - Giggling like a big girlie at "pingfuckits".

 

Pingfuckits are not a laughing matter.

 

Indeed, one of those made me take the exhaust and sump off my Bandit, to
look for it. In the end, after the 2nd day of searching, it turned up
lodged near an exhaust valve spring.

 

I have been forced to clear out a garage by a pingfuckit, or maybe it
was a whereditgo (I think the manual referred to it as a vofahrt)

 

Muck composed the following;:

At least you found it inside the engine you're working on .. I had a
pingfuckit got lodged in my overall turnups [1] but which made me strip
a complete engine down looking for it .. and moved a fridge, washing
machine, cooker, shouted at the kids and dog ... to have the bloody
thing turn up in the washing machine a few days later when the wife,
washing the overalls (heresy I think) heard the rattling and searched
them ...

[]1 yes I'm a shortarse.

 

Not sure what a T3 engine is, exactly.

There are at least two types of shim tool for Trumfs - one is a sort of
C-spanner that holds down the bucket while you hoick out the shim from
under the cam lobe, and the other is a sort of clamp affair that does
the same task. You unbolt one of the cam caps and bolt this thing in
place instead.

The C-spanners for the early engines don't fit the later ones. This I
know because I too bought one on Ebay, found it didn't fit, and
promptly re-auctioned it again (taking care to point out it was for
early engines only!)

Answer - they aren't entirely necessary, but like all special tools,
they make the job easier. For instance, when we discovered the
C-spanner didn't fit my mate and I (we were having a shim-fest on his
Thunderbird and my Trophy) simply removed the cams on his T-bird and
accessed the shims that way (my Trophy didn't need any shims changing).

That took slightly longer, obviously, but then Carl Rosner's mechanics
say that they tend to do it that way anyway, if the bike needs more
than a couple of shims changing, because it's easier and quicker to
pull the cams than to remove a cap, bolt down the tool, change the
shim, move onto another cap, repeat, etc etc.

 

I always thought they were called
Jesuswheredidthatgo clips

 

<TOG@toil>; <>;

T3 engined Triumphs are the earlier 3-cylinder engined Hinckley bikes
(from roughly 1992 to 1997), as opposed to the T5 engined bikes that
started with the T595 Daytona and T509 Speed Triple in 1997, and then
the updated Sprint and Tiger models over the next couple of years.

In other words, all the 900cc triples excep the short lived T509
model - as T5's are 955cc with the exception of the T509.

I don't think anyone except those on Triumph related fora uses the
term T3 - it's a handy term for describing bikes from a modular range
that is less clumsy than say "RSV engined" to describe 1000cc V-twin
Aprilias. (RSV, Tuono, Caponord, Futura)

AOL. It's certainly six of one and half a dozen of the other if you've
got most of the shims requiring replacement. I did it using the tool
when I needed to change _every_ shim, and as I also needed to find out
the size of the installed shim to know what size to get, it took
_ages_. You'll need to factor in the cost of a couple of gaskets if
you pull the cams. Mine's a T5, which uses a similar clamp affair
(into the top of the caps though), but is similar to some T3's.

 

They're not you know - at least not across all models. The pre-98
Tiger's a T4, 1999-on Tigers are T7.

 

Balls, I meant pre-99s were T4 - the old shape carb models.

 

FALCO![0]


[0] Little in-joke for the ntk readers.

 

Thank **** for that. At least you found it, if it had been a more
obscure bit, not usually available to order, or really small and
expensive, it would have gone missing.

I had the same sort of thing on an engine rebuild of a DT50MX. I'd just
got the thing together, with new con rod, crank pin, piston, bore,
gearbox bearings, main bearings, seals, gaskets, reeds.... It started,
but wouldn't engage 1st gear, coz I'd left out a tiny little top had
shaped washer. Doh.