Question on chain & sprocket

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Ted Mittelstaedt, May 7, 2006.

  1. Ted Mittelstaedt

    David Kelly Guest

    His name is Beastie. Bee Ess Dee, Beastie. Get it?

    Beastie with green basketball shoes is the best! These with red shoes
    are pretty darn good too:
    http://fromto.cc/hosokawa/gallery/

    Beastie is Made With Macintosh! That tickles my fancy too! Much more
    than a gold colored chain on motorcycle.
     
    David Kelly, May 9, 2006
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  2. Duh, everyone -wants- the performance of new bikes, farings and
    stuff like 4-piston-caliper brakes. But the young certainly cannot afford
    it. Years ago the manufacturers understood this and along side the
    more "performance" bikes in the stratospheric price range that most
    of the young could drool over, they sold a line of lower priced entry
    level stuff. What do you think the purpose was for all the CB350's
    back in the 70's, there's no surprise that it sold as much as it did when
    you look at the price.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 9, 2006
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  3. Correction, a MODERN 530 is more than adequate. As some folks
    have pointed out to me, the 530 chain of today is made with far better
    steel than the 530 chains of years ago.

    Thanks for the link, I took a look at that site, and I'll probably use them
    in the future.
    :) I don't see crap chains for $15 on that site :)
    What I ended up doing is buying new 18 front 43 rear sprockets and
    a 530 EK xring chain from moto-heaven. They sell Thrust Company sprockets,
    (which I think they get someone to make for them)
    more stunt types but many stock sizes, and my bike is one of these, they
    also cut the chain to the right length for you, all of it
    for a bit less than $200 including shipping.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 9, 2006
    #23
  4. Ted Mittelstaedt

    dizzy Guest

    There's still cheaper, "afforable" bikes sold - no more expensive than
    the "old days", when adjusted for inflation. What's your point?
     
    dizzy, May 9, 2006
    #24
  5. Suzuki GS500F is a new bike, fairings, and 4-piston brakes targeted for
    cheaper/younger riders. Adjusted for inflation, this bike would have cost
    $1000 new in 1970.
     
    Phil, Squid-in-Training, May 10, 2006
    #25
  6. Dam. 22k And they are wore out? Must have had the dog shit run out of it.
    My GSX has 20k on it and not a big deal with it chain and all still healthy.
    and the 82 I have has no sgin of wearing out soon. You sure they are wore
    out. And yes you can get them cheaper at Bandit or Dennis. And yes that
    bike will take 530, and most 750's come with them. A 1980 Honda 750K and
    750C and 750F has a 530 and thats all of them for that year, no other 750's.
    And there is nothing wrong with it being a DOHC, you can ride anywhere with
    no biggie. I've owned alot of them. Good bike.
     
    ROBERT MILLER, May 10, 2006
    #26
  7. No, it's no maintainence. Chains don't last long when they don't see
    oil and get all rusty.
    Even the front sprocket, it's pretty amazing.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 14, 2006
    #27
  8. Are we? Food hasn't changed much an apple is still an apple.

    Sure you can get a lot of cool electronic toys now.

    But back in the 60's when both cars and bikes were all mechanical
    systems and a lot simpler, I understand a lot more owners could do
    their own maintainence. Saving a lot of money that way. I wasn't
    alive in the early 60's so I'm just going by hearsay.

    So you get a car or a bike today for an equivalent purchase price,
    that is just the beginning. Most people can't service them even if they
    want to since the tooling alone required to do it costs more than the
    bike itself. Insurance is also higher when adjusted for inflation.
    Yes, this is simply the old "divide between rich and poor getting bigger"
    it's been happening since RR won the White House in '80.

    It doesen't take a rocket scientist to see that despite the economic
    calculations of adjusting for inflation, the numbers don't add up.

    A lot more young couples are in apartments for a lot longer, rather
    than buying houses.

    And when they do buy they get a lot less sized house and a much smaller
    yard.

    And these days with most couples both of them work. Since when
    did the average working man's wage become inadequate to support
    a stay at home mom?

    And as for saving for college, forget that, most college grads have
    parents who can't fund them, so they end up going in debt.

    Disposable income is a much lower percentage of income, today.
    For most people, they are not approaching a bike purchase as
    their only means of transport. It is a secondary means of transport
    and their car is their primary. So, the bike purchase must come out
    of what is left over after all other bills are paid, and that's a lot
    less now.
    Not the case, warranty work is not nearly as profitable because
    the factory only allots a fixed amount of time for it. If the job runs
    over, maybe there's a stuck bolt or some such, then the dealership
    eats that cost.

    The factories have recognized this and their response has been to
    start defining a whole bunch of parts as "wearable" items and thus
    exempt from warranty. So for example you bring a bike in
    with some plastic part on the handlebars snapped, and the factory
    says it's a wearable part. But still this only helps make warranty
    work a little more profitable.

    Recall work is profitable because when the mechanic has changed the
    same part a hundred times in a row they get really really quick at
    doing it.

    The most profitable service work is when the guy brings in a bike
    that is less than 5 years old and is out of warranty.

    The dealerships don't really want to
    It's more a volume thing. A dealership that sells more bikes is able
    to buy them at a steeper discount from the factory, they get higher
    factory-to-dealer incentive payments, etc.

    If you come in and buy a $1000 woth of parts, they might make
    $300 off you.

    If you come in and buy a new bike, and you have done your research
    and have a good idea of what they paid for the bike, and they are
    really desperate to make the sale, they might still only make $300 off
    you. But, your purchase may cause every additional bike they buy from
    the factory to cost them $20 less than before they made the sale to
    you.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 14, 2006
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  9. The only electrical appliance they ever made that didn't suck was their
    vacuum cleaner.

    (Yeah, I had a TR3A, a TR4, a Spitfire, and a handful of MGB's. I know all
    about Lucas.)
     
    EffJay R. Yamaha, May 15, 2006
    #29
  10. Always thought he was the Prince.
    Dim, flicker, and off. Or so it says here: :)
    http://www.kitcar.com/articles-kitcar/humordept/lucas-prince.html

    "The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three
    switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE."
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, May 15, 2006
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