Q for K100 owners

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Bonwick, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Andy Bonwick

    crn Guest

    A good idea is to use an air impact gun like the ones used by
    type shops. Very good at tight nuts and all of the force is rotational
    rather than the side twist that is inevitable with a bar or ratchet.
    They will also remove the centre nut of a flywheel or pulley etc without
    having to jam the shaft.
     
    crn, Apr 15, 2008
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  2. Andy Bonwick

    Champ Guest

    Yep, got one, used it many times, including 3 hours ago on this job.
    But, if the socket is slipping round on the nut, then it makes no
    difference.
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    Champ

    ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
    My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
    To email me, neal at my domain should work.
     
    Champ, Apr 15, 2008
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  3. Andy Bonwick

    crn Guest

    Time to talk to Mr SnapOn about a decent 6 sided impact rated socket.
    Unless, of course, you prefer the application of brute force and pure
    bloody minded ignorance by means of hammer, chisel and heat.
     
    crn, Apr 16, 2008
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  4. Andy Bonwick

    Champ Guest

    This may be one of the rare occasions when a Snap-on tool is worth the
    money. Nowadays there's generally plenty of quality tools available
    at a small fraction of Snap-on prices.
    I don't. Frankly, if I can't get the front sprocket off I'll just
    leave it there and put the new chain on it. It's not too worn...

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    Champ

    ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
    My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
    To email me, neal at my domain should work.
     
    Champ, Apr 16, 2008
    #44
  5. Andy Bonwick

    deadmail Guest

    Machine Mart do a reasonable range of impact sockets as do, I believe,
    Halfords.
     
    deadmail, Apr 16, 2008
    #45
  6. Andy Bonwick

    CT Guest

    Sensible policies etc...
     
    CT, Apr 16, 2008
    #46
  7. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    All my sockets are snap-on 6 siders.
    Of course they are so effective that when you go spaz with a scaffold pole
    you might actually snap the attached shaft.
     
    Hog, Apr 16, 2008
    #47
  8. Andy Bonwick

    SD Guest

    How come, when I went in to buy 3 boxes of glubs, have I got a receipt
    for the thick end of sixty quid in my hand?

    Bloody shops, they should be banned. Or something.
     
    SD, Apr 16, 2008
    #48
  9. Andy Bonwick

    Champ Guest

    heh. Dangerous place, is MachineMart.
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    Champ

    ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
    My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
    To email me, neal at my domain should work.
     
    Champ, Apr 16, 2008
    #49
  10. Andy Bonwick

    Champ Guest

    Rejoice!

    The new 27mm socket fitted snugly. (The 32 didn't fit with the tab
    washer in place).

    So I rattled it with rattle gun. It was quickly apparent that this
    was just turning the engine over (with it in gear). I threw the wheel
    back in, located the chain across the sprockets, and then wedged the
    handle of a hammer between the swingarm and spokes.

    Rattled some more.

    Put the socket on a breaker bar, slide a fork tube of the end of that,
    and heaved. The bike lifted gently off the bench.

    Rattled some more.

    Strained with the bar some more.

    Rattled. And rattled. And rattled....and it's off!

    Fucking things.
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    Champ

    ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
    My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
    To email me, neal at my domain should work.
     
    Champ, Apr 16, 2008
    #50
  11. Andy Bonwick

    Lozzo Guest

    I refer you to the story Pip told of us trying to get the front
    sprocket nut off one of my ZZR1100s

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
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    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
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    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Apr 16, 2008
    #51
  12. Andy Bonwick

    Hog Guest

    The 40something rear sprocket retainer on my 996 defied even a 3 foot
    scaffold pole. It was quite clear the hollow axle was going to buckle or the
    wheel spoke deform.

    Powerful stuff corrosion, sometimes.
     
    Hog, Apr 16, 2008
    #52
  13. Andy Bonwick

    crn Guest

    How much pressure did you have, you need around 140 psi to get the gun
    working properly.
     
    crn, Apr 16, 2008
    #53
  14. Andy Bonwick

    crn Guest

    Indeed. 10 bar is what most commercial compressers run at.
    Some of the smaller DIY machines only manage around 7 bar and have
    difficulty in driving professional tools.

    You need a 10 bar compressor to put 7bar / 100 psi into a truck tyre.
     
    crn, Apr 16, 2008
    #54
  15. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I doubt it. Most industrial compressors work at 6 bar and it's the
    flow that does the work rather than the pressure.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Apr 16, 2008
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  16. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I know **** all about putting air in truck tyres but I make my living
    from using pneumatic machinery in heavy engineering and you're talking
    absolute bollocks. 6 bar and 110cfm is the industry standard and
    anything above that is pointless.

    Want to argue? Go to any power station, steel mill, shipyard or
    foundry in this country and have a look at what pressure their
    workshop air is regulated at and you'll find the compressors stop
    filling the receiver at 95psi.

    Pressure is worth nothing, it's the flow that counts and 10 bar is
    pointless if you can't move the air through at a high enough rate.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Apr 16, 2008
    #56
  17. Andy Bonwick

    Champ Guest

    See Andy's comments (and he's someone I often turn to for advice on
    this sort of thing).

    My compressor is only a home/hobbyist one, but it's done the job most
    times - including this one.
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    Champ

    ZX10R | GPz750turbo | GSX-R 600 racer
    My advice as your attorney is to buy a motorcycle
    To email me, neal at my domain should work.
     
    Champ, Apr 16, 2008
    #57
  18. Andy Bonwick

    ogden Guest

    <resists urge to engage in needless pedantry>
     
    ogden, Apr 17, 2008
    #58
  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden
    Good call. You don't want to get anal with a bloke who's got latex
    gloves.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 17, 2008
    #59
  20. Andy Bonwick

    darsy Guest

    we've a bloke here that sits at his desk flicking through the
    MachineMart catalogue, practically drooling.
     
    darsy, Apr 17, 2008
    #60
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