Purchasing a bike "long distance"

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by bruces1, Mar 25, 2009.

  1. bruces1

    bruces1 Guest

    Hi everyone.

    I'm looking at purchasing a bike 600 kilometres away, but in the same
    state (WA). It's an unlicensed road trail bike. I don't intend on
    travelling there.

    I've bought a few bikes locally before, but what's the usual way to
    handle the paperwork with a long distance purchase like this? I was
    thinking I'd offer him a small deposit and send him a completed and
    signed copy of the transfer papers.

    Once the bike has been freighted here (with the completed transfer
    papers, now also signed by seller), I'll wire him the cash. Sound
    about right?

    I'm getting the bike checked out independently by a mechanic near the
    seller, that's when I'll be getting the ID numbers for a REVS check.

    Thanks,

    Bruce.
     
    bruces1, Mar 25, 2009
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  2. bruces1

    Knobdoodle Guest

    If it's unlicensed, what're the "transfer papers" for? (and if it's
    registered why not just ride it?)
    Personally I wouldn't let a bike out of my sight without the money in my
    hand (or account).
     
    Knobdoodle, Mar 25, 2009
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  3. I was thinking nobody on earth would!
     
    Mister Biggus, Mar 25, 2009
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  4. bruces1

    bruces1 Guest

    When you register an unlicensed vehicle, you need proof of ownership.
    Completed transfer papers fulfill the requirement for proof of
    ownership, even though you don't actually need to perform a transfer
    due to the bike being unlicensed.
    You're right, I would be the same in that position. At the same time,
    I wouldn't put my hard earned into someone else's hand (or account)
    until I have the bike in my sight and a proof of purchase. So what's
    the standard procedure here?
     
    bruces1, Mar 25, 2009
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  5. bruces1

    Knobdoodle Guest

    You're right, I would be the same in that position. At the same time,
    I wouldn't put my hard earned into someone else's hand (or account)
    until I have the bike in my sight and a proof of purchase. So what's
    the standard procedure here?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Fly to (wherever).
    Decide whether to fly back home or buy the bike.
    Fly or...
    .... buy and then get a permit to bring the bike home. (about $20 per day in
    the eastern states)
     
    Knobdoodle, Mar 25, 2009
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    Nev.. Guest

    If the bike is unregistered, then all you should need to fulfill proof
    of ownership is a handwritten receipt from the seller stating that s/
    he received a certain amount of money from you being full payment for
    the bike and a descriptioin of the bike, probably a VIN or frame/
    engine number should be sufficient.
    The standard procedure is that you deposit the money into the sellers
    account and you organise to have the bike shipped to you. If you
    don't trust them, then don't buy the bike. If you do trust them it
    shouldn't be a problem. I have sold several bikes to interstate
    buyers this way and there are quite a few other ausmotians who have
    similarly purchased or sold bike in similar fashion. That's not to
    say that there aren't people who have been cheated by scammers,
    however most of the stories I have heard about people getting ripped
    off buying bikes sight unseen at long distance have been the victims
    of scammers who are targetting people who can't recognise an obvious
    scam.
     
    Nev.., Mar 25, 2009
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    theo Guest

    These days they want a trail to show that the previous owner also got
    it legally, and so on. Too many unregistered chookies stolen from
    farmyard sheds. And if you want to ride it anywhere in WA other than
    on your own property you will need "Off-road Rego" which includes
    plates.

    Theo
     
    theo, Mar 25, 2009
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  8. bruces1

    bruces1 Guest

    Theo, I'm actually starting to consider riding it back. I found this
    on the DPI website:

    http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/yourvehicle/1440.asp

    I'll give them a call tomorrow to see if I'm allowed to use this
    permit for that. 400km on a 400cc thumper with knobblies, a plank for
    a seat, and sprockets geared for off road use could be .. interesting.
     
    bruces1, Mar 26, 2009
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  9. bruces1

    bruces1 Guest

    It all seems pretty legit, but at the end of the day you never know..
    Zebee's "half and half" method sounds fair to me.
     
    bruces1, Mar 26, 2009
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