[QUOTE="SP"] Hmm, which bit of 'unmarked' did you fail to understand? So, what's your preference, oh godly biker boy? [/QUOTE] I did the IAM. However they just hound you for Cash afterwards , even asked for a direct debit payment the cheeky sods. Thinking of doing the ROSPA as it seems a little more advanced , graded results and resit the test every 3 yrs. Ken ZX636