PRS licences

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lozzo, Feb 14, 2006.

  1. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Apparently a local scooter restoration company is getting legal threats
    from the PRS because they want him to get a licence to play Radio 2 in
    his own workshops. They say that if music is played at a place of work
    then a licence must be obtained.

    The shop owners counter-argument is that the PRS have already been payed
    by the BBC. Full srtory here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4712008.stm


    What I'd like to know is this. I listen to the radio in my car while I
    am working; going by the letter of the law, do I need a PRS licence?
     
    Lozzo, Feb 14, 2006
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  2. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Lozzo belched forth and ejected the following:
    If you play it loud enough for it to be heard outside, yes.
     
    Whinging Courier, Feb 14, 2006
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  3. Wish i got a penny every time a door i have hung gets opened and closed .
     
    Steve Robinson, Feb 14, 2006
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  4. Lozzo

    Pip Guest

    Why would you?
     
    Pip, Feb 14, 2006
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  5. Lozzo

    Vass Guest

    i.e public performance
     
    Vass, Feb 14, 2006
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  6. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Pip said...
    My car is my workplace. Going by the letter of the law I need a licence
    to listen to music played over the radio in the workplace.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 14, 2006
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  7. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Vass said...
    There's no distinction between public and private performance. You need
    a licence even if you play hold music, or have the radio on in the
    workshops where it can't be heard by customers.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 14, 2006
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  8. Lozzo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    We had a letter relating to this shit asking for details of how many
    people worked there and how many hours per day so we can pay the fee.
    It went in the bin.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 14, 2006
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  9. Lozzo

    Eiron Guest

    "We only have around half a dozen customers visit a day but now every
    time one comes in the radio goes off.

    "It's not like we are a big store pumping music down the aisles. We just
    have Radio 2 on and listen to Terry Wogan....

    Is there a connection between the lack of custom and the Wogan?
     
    Eiron, Feb 14, 2006
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  10. Lozzo

    Vass Guest

    that's technically public perfomance then isn't it?

    Public on the phone listening to hold music
    Public in the garage listening to music from the radio
     
    Vass, Feb 14, 2006
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  11. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Vass said...
    I'd call that private as only one person is listening at any time.
    Which part of "or have the radio on in the workshops where it can't be
    heard by customers." don't you understand?
     
    Lozzo, Feb 14, 2006
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  12. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    wessie said...
    Techincally incorrect. If the music is being played to staff then a
    licence is required.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 14, 2006
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  13. Lozzo

    Lozzo Guest

    Bear said...
    I regard my car as my office, so does the boss.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 14, 2006
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  14. Lozzo

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    That's only the case if he doesn't employ anyone else in the workshop.
    The form we were sent to fill in asked the number of employees and the
    number of hours per week they worked. You then had a table listing the
    stealth tax payable according to the final figure.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 14, 2006
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  15. Lozzo

    Dan White Guest

    According to my accountant, it's "Wherever you spend 40% or more of your
    working hours". Which has proved very handy in claiming a mileage allowance
    for tryips to head office :)

    Not sure if that actually applies to a car, but I see where you're coming
    from.
     
    Dan White, Feb 14, 2006
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  16. Lozzo

    Vass Guest

    ah, no I understand that, just didn't read it!
    as you were, I'll get me coat!
     
    Vass, Feb 14, 2006
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  17. Lozzo

    Vass Guest

    Really? I disallow all claims for travel to and from Work/Home when private
    cars are used
    and petrol is claimed (40p per mile for forst 10k miles)
    So, if they spend over 40% of their work in the car (working hours), this
    changes?
     
    Vass, Feb 14, 2006
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  18. Lozzo

    Veggie Dave Guest

    ITYF it's where it CAN be heard by the public. That's the wording in the
    article and is certainly what I've always been told.

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    Veggie Dave, Feb 14, 2006
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  19. Lozzo

    Pip Guest

    Oi! That's my potential bonfire that you've pissed all over, in yer
    gurt big Ursine boots. Pshaw, say I.
     
    Pip, Feb 14, 2006
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  20. No. Assuming the radio station already paid it.

    http://www.mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk/broadcasting/

    Yes. Assuming you consider your car to be your office.

    http://www.prs.co.uk/workplace/

    but probably not.

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    DoetNietComputeren, Feb 14, 2006
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