Proposed new vehicle excise charges

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SP, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. Champ wrote
    When I were a lad it meant anyone who had a decent sun tan and had
    been/was about to be brought to civilised ways of thinking and the
    correct use for indoor toilets. Different these days of course but it
    *never* meant the frogs, we don't want the frogs in our Empire thank you
    very much
     
    steve auvache, Jun 17, 2004
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  2. SP

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Indeed. From OED online:

    wog

    slang.

    1. A vulgarly offensive name for a foreigner, esp. one of Arab
    extraction.

    1929 F. C. BOWEN Sea Slang 153 Wogs, lower class Babu shipping
    clerks on the Indian coast. 1932 R. J. P. HEWISON Essay on Oxford 5
    And here the Ethiop ranks, the wogs, we spy. 1937 F. STARK Baghdad
    Sketches 90 When I return, Nasir fixed me with real malignity in his
    little placid eyes. ‘I knew she wanted me to go,’ he said. ‘I could
    see what she was thinking. They call us wogs.’ 1942 C. HOLLINGWORTH
    German Just behind Me xiii. 258 King Zog Was always considered a bit
    of a Wog, Until Mussolini quite recently Behaved so indecently. 1944
    [see COME v. 39e]. 1955 E. WAUGH Officers & Gentlemen II. 323 He
    turned up in western Abyssinia leading a group of wogs. 1958 Times
    Lit. Suppl. 11 Apr. p. vi/3 We have travelled some distance from the
    days when Wogs began at Calais. 1965 [see COMMIE]. 1982 J. SAVARIN
    Water Hole I. iv. 42 He hated Arabs... They were all wogs to him.

    2. The Arabic language.

    1977 P. RAYMOND Matter of Assassination vi. 63, I can't speak Wog
    and don't seems to be getting anywhere. 1982 ‘W. HAGGARD’
    Mischief-Makers xiv. 157 ‘I've picked up a few words of wog, sir.’..
    The driver spoke terrible barrack-room Arabic.

    3. a. attrib. passing into adj.

    a1963 J. LUSBY in B. James Austral. Short Stories (1963) 236 Wog
    chappie scuttling around seeking safe side of the beast. 1970 G. F.
    NEWMAN Sir, You Bastard viii. 234 We were hawking, and getting treated
    like bleeding wog brush salesmen. 1973 Daily Tel. 31 May 3/2 Judge
    Sheldon heard that trouble started..when white girlfriends of coloured
    soldiers..were taunted by members of the Royal Scots as ‘wog lovers’.
    1977 Drive Sept.-Oct. 112/2 Any foreign car, even a Ferrari or a
    Mercedes, is a wog motor, unless it's a Yank.

    b. Comb. wogland derog., a foreign country.

    1961 [see NIG n.3]. 1967 ‘J. MUNRO’ Money that Money can't Buy ii.
    24, I don't live in Wogland [sc. Spain] because I like it.

    Hence also wogger; woggy a.

    1922 JOYCE Ulysses 740 She called him wogger. Ibid. 741 She may have
    noticed her wogger people were always going away. 1973 M. CATTO Sam
    Casanova iv. 75, I met some kid in a night-club here, does some sort
    of Woggy belly-dance. 1979 REESE & FLINT Trick 13 100 That woggy
    fellow..was cleaning up.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 17, 2004
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  3. Andrewr At Work wrote
    So what is "****" an acronym of then?
     
    steve auvache, Jun 17, 2004
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  4. SP

    darsy Guest

    "for unlawful carnal knowledge".

    Load of old nonsense.
     
    darsy, Jun 17, 2004
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  5. SP

    ogden Guest

    Not least because it's an old saxon word.
     
    ogden, Jun 17, 2004
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  6. SP

    gomez Guest

    <snip rest of detail>

    That beats my source, the latest Wilbur Smith paperback. I owe
    everything I mis-know about Africa and the Orient to his books :)
     
    gomez, Jun 17, 2004
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  7. SP

    Ace Guest

    Meaning?
     
    Ace, Jun 17, 2004
    #47
  8. SP

    Champ Guest

    In Australia, the word wog is used to mean Greek and Italian
    immigrants.
     
    Champ, Jun 17, 2004
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  9. SP

    Fr Jack Guest

    He's angling for a date with Lesley, innit? ;-)

    (apologies to Lesley)
     
    Fr Jack, Jun 17, 2004
    #49
  10. SP

    Champ Guest

    What about apologie to me?
     
    Champ, Jun 17, 2004
    #50
  11. Who cares?
     
    Paul Carmichael, Jun 17, 2004
    #51
  12. Nor do the petrol stations...... ;-)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 17, 2004
    #52
  13. SP

    Ace Guest

    Nor do the petrol stations...... ;-)[/QUOTE]

    Heh.
     
    Ace, Jun 17, 2004
    #53
  14. SP

    Fr Jack Guest

    Dont be such a tart!

    Oh, errr.... as you were... ;-)
     
    Fr Jack, Jun 17, 2004
    #54
  15. No no no! That's what first turned me *on* to continental women %-)
    What's this stupid fetish women have about shaving? Come to think of
    it, what's the stupid fetish about men shaving too?

    --
    Dave Remove my gerbil for email replies.

    Bike's are bosh, PC's are pointless, and the 1990's are nuts!
    Bikes are great, PCs are super, and the 1990s are the time to be!
    Save the apostrophe! Get 'em right! If in doubt, leave 'em out!!
     
    Dave Swindell, Jun 17, 2004
    #55
  16. SP

    Zymurgy Guest

    WRT Victoria Beckham it wouldn't.

    HTH

    Paul.
     
    Zymurgy, Jun 17, 2004
    #56
  17. SP

    sweller Guest

    The fuel problem doesn't affect the locals.

    Income tax aside, although it may explain the cheaper fuel, better roads,
    healthcare, railways, cheaper alcohol etc etc.

    Are these such bad things? Especially the Sunday opening. The majority
    getting a day off to spend relaxing or with the family rather than it
    being another day of servitude?
     
    sweller, Jun 18, 2004
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  18. SP

    deadmail Guest

    I think that they have tax relief for families etc. so the tax system is
    designed to 'support the family' by taxing single people heaviest.
    I think that France has a lot of things right that we have lost sight
    of.
     
    deadmail, Jun 18, 2004
    #58
  19. WADR, because they may not have 300 miles to travel and a ferry to
    catch.
    And much higher indirect taxation (VAT at 22% or thereabouts) and much
    higher social costs, higher insurance.....

    .....but we've done this to death before.
    Here, actually agree. I don't mind the shops being shut. Fuel
    provision, though, I'd class as an "essential service" and when even the
    French bitch about it, you know it's a cock-up.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 18, 2004
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  20. SP

    Ace Guest

    On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:39:48 +0100,

    Yes it fucking is.

    I'm part of the majority. It's only the minority of shop-workers that
    I want to see forced to work Sundays ;-)
    Oh, FFS, when will you stop going on about this? Nobody who lives here
    has a problem 'cos they all have CBs so can buy fuel anywhere 24/7.
    Furriners are only supposed to be on the autoroutes, where you can use
    your quaint old-fashioned cards to your hearts' content, or even pay
    with cash, if you prefer.
     
    Ace, Jun 18, 2004
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