Proper Assembly Lubrication Part II

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Nomen Nescio, Oct 17, 2005.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    It has been brought to my attention that the use of grease (white lithium
    or moly) as an assembly lube can cause sudden, energetic disassembly of an
    engine whilst running.

    The reason is quite simple, really. Think of grease as SAE 10,000 oil. It
    is sort of like STP, only thicker yet. If you would fill your crankcase
    with STP and attempt to start an engine, the oil pump would break.
    Likewise, if you coat every part with grease, there is a chance you will
    clog oil galleries and discharge ports with SAE 10,000. Hence, oil
    starvation. After a few minutes running, plain bearings will melt and
    after a few hours, valves will stick in their guide bushings. Lets not
    forget that a prime function of oil is to cool engine parts and it cannot
    cool if it does not circulate. Grease can cut friction, but not cool
    because it does not circulate, so that is why oil and not grease is used in
    high speed combustion engines. Grease is perfect for wheel bearings
    because there is no combustion and heat is low. It makes perfect sense
    once you begin to think about the problem.

    It seems some older motorcycle engines do not provide sufficient pressure
    to push out the grease clogs and the engine runs dry and soon you have a
    bucket of bolts. Just because your "motor" has an oil pump does not mean
    some parts are not gravity fed! And gravity cannot circulate SAE 10,000
    oil.

    Instead of grease, I now recommend SAE 30 non-detergent. Squirt this on
    every part as you assemble your bike engine. You can't go wrong with this
    advice.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Oct 17, 2005
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    Charlie Gary Guest

    Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Or a person could just follow the recommmendations in their factory
    service manual.
     
    Charlie Gary, Oct 17, 2005
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  3. Which generally calls for engine assembly lube (a special grease
    designed to disolve harmlessly into oil, widely available at auto parts
    stores).

    Methinks the Anonymous One is still stuck in the 1950's, prior to such
    innovations.

    - Elron
     
    L. Ron Waddle, Oct 17, 2005
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  4. I think there is some truth to your assesment. Next thing you know he
    will be talking about the time he drove a Terraplane off the dealers
    showroom floor.

    pierce
     
    R. Pierce Butler, Oct 17, 2005
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  5. Don't...bogart...that...joint...my friend!
    Pass it over...to me!
     
    krusty kritter, Oct 17, 2005
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    MadDogR75 Guest

    Gee! Thats why all my rebuilt engines explode.....NOT.
    The tiny amount of grease used as assembly lube could
    not possibly have any measurable effect on the viscosity
    of 2 or 3 Quarts of crankcase oil you nit.
    MadDog
     
    MadDogR75, Oct 24, 2005
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  7. wrote in @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
    I have never seen an engine that had exploded. Not one. I have heard many a
    story or three but not once did I ever see one.

    I have seen holes in the side of blocks, holes in oil pans, sieves engines,
    overheated engines that warped all the valves and ever warped the head. I
    even saw a head launch off a block, but never an exploded engine. I saw a
    tank blow up in a video once but that was because of a particularly strong
    explosion that was induced by someone who wanted to blow up the tank. Pretty
    amazing stuff those munitions are.

    pierce
     
    R. Pierce Butler, Oct 24, 2005
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