pressure measurements

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by John Johnson, Dec 1, 2004.

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    John Johnson Guest

    Ok, I'm starting a new thread so we don't clog up the 2-stroker's
    troubleshooting issue.

    So, Kaybear pointed out that removing the spark plug from the engine
    will lower the compression to maybe 4:1, and since the hole is pretty
    small the force felt is lower (same pressure, but less area).

    A question then. The experiments from my youth were performed with a
    bicycle pump and my thumb. The pump's opening was maybe 1/2", but since
    a schroeder valve only just fits inside that hole, 1/2" might be
    generous. Call it 1/2. As Kaybear said, the area of that hole is just
    about 0.197in^2. At the time, I was only just barely able to hold 40psi
    (measured on the gauge on the pump, and this gauge was pretty accurate
    as I recall).

    So if I've got this right, I should have been feeling 40*0.197lb force
    on my thumb? That's less than 8lb! I mean, I can suspend an 8lb weight
    from my thumb, but then I'm not asking it to seal against gas pressure
    then. The failure in that case wasn't that my thumb couldn't press
    against the fitting, but that air would begin to leak past one side or
    another. But if this is reasonable, how is it that one can hold the
    compression of the engine at 11lb? Maybe I should repeat the experiments
    now that I'm fully-grown...Maybe my memory is just fooling me-that
    wouldn't be a surprise, but maybe something else is going on here?
     
    John Johnson, Dec 1, 2004
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    Paul Cassel Guest

    Your thumb tissues compressed with the air pressure meaning you needed
    to add more than 8 lbs of pressure to keep the seal.
     
    Paul Cassel, Dec 1, 2004
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