Pre-Friday Funny... (Saddam / Outkast)

Eh? Have you ever watched a hand sliding up and down the neck of a
guitar?

And anyhow, I'm still getting over a picture of kate bush with a
guitar/shotgun thing in a gratuitous oral-sex implication type picture
thing I saw when I was about 13. Cor.

 

Per-lease. Crap and of course David Gilmours greatest mistake.

Wuthering Heights? Or a cat being killed slowly and
painfully............


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Not even "I'm a creep, I'm a hair-do" ?!

 

In my world, the sax is the single most unwelcome instrument in any
band.

 

Unless the lyrics are exceptionally strong, it's the music I notice
first and foremost and, in many cases, I don't even bother trying to
listen to the lyrics. They're almost entirely secondary to the
experience but it does vary.

A bona-fide classic, more like. Just because a record's been made
with a clear sense of humour, it doesn't make it a novelty song.

After all, there's a real difference between a Wombles record and,
say, Busted's "Year 3000" (for want of a better example that you
might have actually heard)

*boggle*

I go back to what I said the other day about badges of honour.

 

Champ wrote

Ok everybody move along please, nothing new to se here.

 

"No idea what that's about"..."nothing to do with ignorance" ?
Sounds like it to me.

As to the boggling, the song wears its meaning on its sleeve and the
vocal is as clear as anything, so you'd have to wilfully try to not
pick it up.

 

ogden said...

Agreed, all Radiohead lyrics are far more interesting than the tunes.

 

Maybe he's never listened to it since Pulp are of little interest to
him?

 

It's true there are many hard rock and metal bands whose lyrics tend
toward the throwaway; there are also a great many with something valid
to say, be it socio-political comment, solidarity with and sympathy
for the afflicted, or, of course, in the case of Stairway To Heaven,
wibble flip dibble doo... It's all just entertainment. It means as
much or as little as you want it to. A friend of mine once said that
the lyrics are only there so the singer doesn't have to go "la la la"
right through the song.

 

It can be considered an acquired taste; with sufficient exposure, what
appears to some to be a "loud tangle of sound" becomes recognisable as
a complex, diffuse arrangement of distinct parts, in much the same way
(yes, really) as an orchestra conductor can discern the separate
instruments within the whole.

 

True of damn near anything, I'd say. I just get a bit fed up of
people dismissing hard rock/heavy metal because of a few preconceived
ideas and broad generalizations, while of course retaining the right
myself to do exactly that regarding genres of music which I find
unappealing. I never claimed to be perfect.

 

It's the guitar tone change which does it for me, definitely.

 

I told you - I don't listen to lyrics.

Just because you think it's obvious, don't assume that others behave
and think like you.

 

You're a victim of your own musical leanings Champ!

Perhaps only non-muso's can truly enjoy the whole package (music & lyrics)?

Perhaps a muso will focus on the music (so long as the lyrics aren't so bad
they distract) - and a poet or songwriter (or pleb?) will focus on the words
(so long as the music isn't so bad it distracts).

Frankly I'm *boggling* as much as Ogden but I can sort of see your point.
It seems such a waste though - and I feel sure you're missing out.

 

I'm with Champ - and I reckon you're the one who's missing out. He and
I always have the option to listen to the words (and I'm sure I for
one appreciate poetry as well as the next man) whereas I suspect
you'll never feel music with quite the same intensity as us.

 

Not at all - I get my kicks from both the music and the lyrics. (You may not
know it but I've been playing guitar for 20 years)

And if someone posted saying they only cared about lyrics and didn't listen
to the music then I'd be just as perplexed as I am to hear Champ (and now
you) trivialising song lyrics en bloc.

I'm sure it's wonderful being a truly talented musician but if it renders me
incapable of appreciating 'the whole' then I'm very glad I'm not one!

And, no disrespect to either of you, but you're a jumper-wearing
folk-guitarist (with lyrics like "Fol-de-roy, fiddle-de-dee") and Champ
wanks-the-plank in a pub-rock covers band!!

 

There's no answer to that.

 

I'm sure you're right. The thing is, for about 95% of songs I just
can't understand the words. I'm the same when people are talking in a
noisy environment, an with foreign languages - I hear the sound of the
words, but can't understand them.

Just one of those things.

 

Quite right!


It should be dismissed simply because its shit. No other reason.