Practical Help Needed

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Oldbloke, Jul 31, 2004.

  1. Oldbloke

    Oldbloke Guest

    One of the throttle cables on the Zephyr snapped this morning, luckily on
    the driveway.

    I have started to investigate how to dig out the old one, so as a new one
    can be fitted, but without a manual the only way I can see of doing this is
    to remove the carbs.

    Anyone with any mechanical knowledge fancy having a look?

    I are mostly a bit disappointed :(

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Jul 31, 2004
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  2. Oldbloke

    Oldbloke Guest

    Heh, carbs will be off any second now....
    thanks for your help BTW

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Jul 31, 2004
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  3. Oldbloke

    Oldbloke Guest

    Oldbloke wrote:
    Bad form n'all, but carbs are off (god knows how i'll get em back on again).
    Off to Banbury now for new cable inner from little man in shop "who can"

    <fx awaits "his fate was sealed" responses>

    If only everything in life were as reliable as a Honda

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Jul 31, 2004
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  4. Oldbloke

    sweller Guest

    It's an across frame Jap 4?

    ha ha ha...
     
    sweller, Jul 31, 2004
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  5. Oldbloke

    flashgorman Guest

    again).

    Save time and just scrape all the skin off your knuckles now. On the plus
    side, this could be the first step towards you becomg a successful amateur
    gynaecologist.
     
    flashgorman, Jul 31, 2004
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  6. sweller wrote
    Is it?
    ho yuss.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 31, 2004
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  7. Oldbloke

    deadmail Guest

    Hmm, I think it would prolly help to lubricate the rubbers that the
    carbs go into with a *little* vaseline. Helps the old imperial/metric
    thing.
     
    deadmail, Jul 31, 2004
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  8. Oldbloke

    Oldbloke Guest

    Thankyou for those kind words mate

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Jul 31, 2004
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  9. Oldbloke

    Oldbloke Guest

    The rubbers bolt on to the barrels, and the carbs push into the rubbers. To
    remove, I had to unscrew the rubbers from the barrels and remove them.
    Would it be better to refit them to the barrels and then try to get the
    carbs onto the clamped ends.

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Jul 31, 2004
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    Elly Guest

    Whatever is easiest, mate. Just be prepared to do what you need to to
    make it work, and be prepared to undo what you've just done and try
    again, or try a different attack when it becomes obvious you're
    struggling with little hope of success.

    I'd go with Mr Haynes' favourite phrase: reassembly is the reverse of
    removal. Soaking the rubbers in hot water to give them a bit of
    flexibility might help, as may a bit of lube on the carb ends.
    Frantic checking that you've not caught a lip is good too ;-)

    Think positive - at least you won't be frozen stiff, doing it with
    sleet running down your neck ... providing you finish the job before
    November, of course.
     
    Elly, Jul 31, 2004
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  11. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "Oldbloke"
    "Replacement is a simple reversal of the removal procedure."

    <snort!>

    Only if you're a fanny doctor with a pot of Vaseline.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 31, 2004
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  12. Oldbloke

    David Thomas Guest

    You wasn't thinking of taking it out without tax were you?

    D
     
    David Thomas, Jul 31, 2004
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  13. Oldbloke

    Eiron Guest

    No!
    Don't you know that vaseline is not good for rubber.
    You want KY jelly for that sort of thing.

    Even better, try http://www.micro90.net/ for a _free_ sample
    of P80 rubber lubricant.
     
    Eiron, Jul 31, 2004
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  14. Oldbloke

    deadmail Guest

    A slight smear will make ****-all difference. I've used it for stuff
    like this for donkey's years.
     
    deadmail, Jul 31, 2004
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  15. Oldbloke

    David Thomas Guest

    Because you go to hell for that !

    D
     
    David Thomas, Jul 31, 2004
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  16. Oldbloke

    Lady Nina Guest

    Both my tax discs are on the pinboard by the door - how cross will Mr
    policeman be if I get pulled without them on? JP? Anybody?
     
    Lady Nina, Jul 31, 2004
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  17. Oldbloke

    Alan T Guest

    I guess this would apply if you got a pull and plod asked the
    question, but if the bike was parked and unattended I suspect it would
    be easier just to write out the ticket. Either that or I got the real
    bastard who was also shortsighted when he didn't see the tax disk [1]
    on my SOC and put a ticket on it anyway.

    AFAIK, failure to display is still an offence, even if the vehicle is
    fully taxed. How much of a bastard Mr Plod tends to be these days I
    wouldn't like to say. But if they're pulling you anyway, they're
    going to want something to show for their "effort" aren't they?


    [1] Okay, so the one in the tax disk holder was out of date, but
    that's just coz I was too lazy to pull the thing off - the valid one
    was still displayed and he didn't bother to look. Plod number two
    ripped up the ticket after I came back to the cage, found the ticket
    and then forcibly dragged him find back to the car.
     
    Alan T, Jul 31, 2004
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  18. Oldbloke

    Oldbloke Guest

    I was going to ride it on the pavement

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Aug 1, 2004
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  19. Oldbloke

    Oldbloke Guest

    Actually, having thought about it the rubbers are going to have to be bolted
    on first, cos there's this big sticky out bit of engine between no 2 and no
    3.
    Heh, I have already had to fashion a special "Zephyr Carb Removal Tool" by
    taking my dremel clone to an allen key.
    Funnily enough this little phrase kept going through my head as the pile of
    nuts bolts and washers was groing yesterday, and the myriad of small rubber
    tubes which were disconnected were merrily waving in the breeze.
    This is indeed true. Reassembly starts later this morning, should be fun.

    --
    Dan L (Oldbloke)
    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Aug 1, 2004
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  20. Oldbloke

    Alan T Guest

    Fixed penalty notice IIRC. To be honest I saw it, scanned it and the
    red mist came down, but I'm pretty sure it was a fixed penalty for
    failure to display, with a further notice that the vehicle was being
    reported to DVLC and if it turned out not to have tax _additional_
    action would be taken.
     
    Alan T, Aug 1, 2004
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