possible oops...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005.

  1. err lots of fast riding on a hot day leading to pulling up at 'home' in
    a vague cloud of blueish smoke and some oil dripping isn't necessairly a
    bad sign is it?

    I'll go see how much oil there is on the floor in 10 mins or so.

    <wibble>



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005
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    muddycat Guest

    Erk. How much is left in the engine?
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    muddycat, Jul 16, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Crosses fingers.

    When did you last check the level?
     
    tallbloke, Jul 16, 2005
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    Christofire Guest

    Check it's not coming out of the gearbox seal. I had one of those go
    on the SV and it wasn't fun. Felt like I had a flat tyre, looked in
    the mirror and saw clouds of smoke. It was the oil coming out of the
    gearbox, onto the hot downpipe and then landing on the road nicely in
    front of the back tyre.

    As soon as you stop the engine there wasn't enough pressure so the leak
    sealed itself.
     
    Christofire, Jul 16, 2005
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  5. muddycat wrote:

    "some".

    there's about a desert spoon full of il on the floor after nearly 40
    minutes of the bike standing:

    http://www.darkwings.co.uk/oildrips.jpg

    The oil level is just a faeries smidgen above the minimum line - so,
    tomorrow I will mostly be bimbling to locate some m/c oil.

    <phew>


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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005
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  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    Erm... It's not great. Have you fucked it *already*?
    FWIW, it (usually) uses very little oil. Where's the oil dripping from?
    Well, quite.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 16, 2005
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  7. Sales of goods act I reckon... ;o)
    oh.
    Somewhere behind all that plastic.
    You're not helping.



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Pah, my Matchless could beat that smudge in 2 minutes.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 16, 2005
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  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    Regrettably the full and comprehensive warranty is automatically
    invalidated if the motorcycle is used in any way illegally (including
    exceeding the posted speed limit).
    "That's my style, man...".

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 16, 2005
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  10. Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

    Heh - I think you'd find that retroactively applying that wouldn't hold
    water. or oil alas :(

    it stopped leaking after that picture. so I just took it as far as the
    petrol station, stuck most of a litre of 10/40 synth bike oil in. Got
    back and it's dripping again. <sigh>

    Looks like it's coming from low down and almost certainly towards the
    right hand side of the bike. Please tell me the oil filter/sump plug are
    on the RHS?

    Also - do you happen to know if the toolkit under the seat has the right
    stuff to remove the fairing panel and take a look?

    Tomorrow, I are mostly....


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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005
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  11. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    The sump plug and filter housing are both in the middle. Bear in mind
    that the oil filter was changed just before you took it away. It's
    *possible* that the filter cover needs tweaking up a bit, but I would
    have expected that to show before now.
    You should only need a pozidrive screwdriver and a (IIRC) 5mm allen key.
    Then a 17mm socket for the plug and filter housing. *Don't* overtighten
    them. Really, really, *don't*.
    Seriously, good luck.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 16, 2005
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  12. Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

    Course, what I'm seeing dripping is probably off the lowest point of the
    fram/zorts etc, so the RHS thing could be a purple kipper.
    YEs, that's what makes me a little concerned :/
    Lordy I hope so.
    troo nuff. Although maybe the high speed warm weather had some sort of
    vibrating expansion/contraction effect to create a gap somewhere.
    Happen to know if these are included under the seat? I've not looked
    yet, but don't have any other tools here, bar a leatherman. Spose I'll
    find out in the morning..

    Oh *joy*.
    Thanks - I can't be doing without it at the moment.



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005
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  13. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    I really can't remember. The 17mm spanner / socket is unlikely, I think.
    I mean it mate. strip either of those threads and you're *fucked*.

    Top tip. Get the fairing panel off, clean the whole shebang up well with
    a degreaser (washing up liquid and hot water at a pinch), then dust the
    area lightly with talcum powder. That'll make spotting the origin of the
    leak much easier.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 16, 2005
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  14. True enough. I'll make some phone calls /before/ I start doing anything
    too much like hard work.
    <lalalala> we do positive mental attitude round these parts mate. (but
    thanks for the heads up, if they don't turn easily I'll leave them well
    alone).
    Cunning - I like your style. And yes, washing up liquid and water is the
    most likely substance, assuming the hotel don's object to me doing this
    in the carpark and are happy to lend me a bucket etc (I'm sure they'll
    be fine).

    Is this fairing one of those mythical ones I hear about that takes 26
    hours to strip despite only having 5 bolts holding it together?




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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005
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  15. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Doesnotcompute
    Heh. No. Go in from the RHS.

    There are some screws along the join line with the top section, remove
    these last. There are two allen bolts, the lower of these has a spacer
    behind it to keep it away from the exhaust. Watch you don't lose that.

    There's a screw at the front lower bit and one holding a bar joining the
    rear part of the fairing.

    Once you got all the fasteners out, you need to sort of "wiggle" it out
    past the horn. That's not too tricky, but needs a little bit of care.

    You can then (if you want to) remove the LHS (you don't need to to
    access the oil filter housing).

    Have you got the Haynes BoL with you?

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 16, 2005
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  16. Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

    TFFT.

    What was that word you used earlier? Oh yes.

    Pshaw.



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    Dnc

    B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - tagline being developed
    V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

    MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003
     
    Doesnotcompute, Jul 16, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    It won't fix the bike but the Missus will appreciate it.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 16, 2005
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  18. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, tallbloke
    <G>

    Well, it'll pass the time while he waits for the breakdown service.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets
    and Ducati Race Engineer.

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha GTS1000
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 16, 2005
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    Richard A Guest

    Sounds similar to a fault I had on the Divvy a few months ago. Got the
    bike back after a gear box repair and when I got home there was oil
    dripping, after about 30 mins it stopped. Checked the bike in the
    morning - no leak. Took it back to the garage and it was leaking.
    Found to be a faulty o-ring on one of the pipes connected to the oil
    cooler.
     
    Richard A, Jul 16, 2005
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    mb Guest

    Phew.
     
    mb, Jul 17, 2005
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