Poo Kett

OK, there's bound to be someone here who knows how to pronounce Phuket
properly. The BBC are currently falling over themselves not to refer to the
plane crash location as Fuckit.

Which, if I'm honest, is how I've always said it in my head.

 

Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, BGN typed:

Why the "h", then?

 

I would if I were there, so who was it this time? Another motor racing
hero? A celeb I know the name of? The entire production team for Big
Brother and all it's global offshoots? Elvis?

 

While we're on how to pronounce things - ad hoc, have I been getting
it wrong all these years?

 

because it would be puck-ette

in linguists "ph" is a digraph and recognised as a consonant, known as an
"aspirated p"

 

she'd be good at that

 

BGN says...

I used to live near the Bukit Tima Road in Singapore.

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Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, BGN typed:

And stir.

 

'ad hok'

HTH

D.:wq

 

No idea, how are you pronouncing it?

 

Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, BGN typed:

Would I be right in thinking there is a slight aspiration after the "p",
then? Otherwise, why put the "h" there at all? It's a transliteration from
a non-Western writing system, so there's no reason for stray consonants. It
just needs to be a phonetic transcription from the original.

Similar thing with Daewoo. When the cars first started coming to the UK,
everyone said Day-woo. Then the marketing men decided we should all
pronounce it Dayoo, cos that's how the Koreans say it. Well, if it's Dayoo,
why not spell it Daeoo or whatever? If there was no "w" in the Korean, why
put it into the English spelling?

Thanks - didn't know that.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ginge

In a Northern accent, probably.

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Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, wessie typed:

Up to a point, Lord Copper. The "ph" digraph in English is /always/
pronounced "f", even though the Greek most of the "ph" words came from has
it as an aspirated "p". Thing is, we've /never/ pronounced it as an
aspirated "p" - the "h" is only there because classic scholars thought it
ought to be there, as a mark of its origins. (A lot of languages didn't
bother, and they have spellings like "telefon", which is more logical.) If
you are borrowing a word from a language that doesn't use the Western
alphabet, why introduce letters that you then tell everyone not to
pronounce?

I've got a word in Martian here. It's pronounced "throg" by the aliens, but
I want you to spell it "throbg", with a silent "b" in English, even though
you must pronounce it "throg" to be correct. Doesn't make sense, does it?

 

As it is spelt - add hock - one of the research subjects (bwahaha, one
day they'll let me dissect them when I've finished) today was an old
posh languages teacher who said add hoke (as in hokey cokey) which
threw me until I worked out what she was on about.

She had that 'too posh to be wrong' air about her and as I spent years
pronouncing halcyon as hal key on rather than hal see on I did wonder
if this was another 'read it in a book never heard it said' word that
I'd got wrong.

 

Has UKRM taught you nothing? You should have waded in and told her she was
wrong.

I've never heard it pronounced any way other than "add hock", though I've
seen a pronunciation guide that gave "add hack" as a variant - I suspect
this may be an American variant.

 

<sniffs bait, swims away>

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lady Nina

<cups hand around ear>

Pardon? Could you say that again more slowly, please?

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Probably.

My dad likes a bit of 'addock you know. Not as fond of it as he is a
bit of plaice mind but definitely on his favourite fish list. After
kippers of course, a bugger for the kippers he is. Which makes the fact
that he has never visited Great Yarmouth all the odder really but then
there is no telling with some folks is there?

 

Ahhh.

You're right, she's senile.

You've just reminded me of an odd one that I do, when reading, for some
odd reason I read the word pardigm as para-dig-um in my head[1], I know
perfectly well that it's pronounced para-dime, but I still read it the
wrong way, kind of like my mental dictionary has 2 entries and one of
them is internal use only.

[1] too many years of making words from acronyms, I suspect.

 

<snip ever so ickle rantette>

Have you considered that the transliteration was done by some westerners
that weren't speaking Ingrish? The phrogs were doing their best to colonise
Siam too....