Politics

I looked down the thread, saw your name, and new you'd have made
exactly the point I was going to, only better.

 

You obviously don't know any 'regular' people.

 

well yes. Even I know people who earn less than the UK median wage.

 

Lies, damn lies...


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Isn't the £34,800 figure above the allowance, anyway? So that's nearer
£40k annual salary.

 

If you make more than about 40k, you're in the top 10% of incomes.

 

None of the above.

He limped up and down the stage pontificating about how he would turn
Britain into the first Green Economy. How this would make us the
wealthiest healthiest happiest country in the world.

OK so he had my attention. I realised I was watching a hall full of
fantasists but he had my attention because there are significant R&D,
scientific and industrial opportunities to be had.

Then he told us how this meant closing and not commissioning new coal
burning power stations..... or Nuclear!

See, I had him right there on the spot. Becoming a clean green
successful economy in Europe's most densly populated country is a great
idea. I'm all for it.

It means closing all fossil fuel burning power stations, except for
those kept to bolster peak/emergency demands.
It means moving to electric and hydrogen powered vehicles in dense urban
areas, particularly public transport.
It means electrifying many things that would otherwise be burning fossil
fuels.

Lots and lots and lots of electricity. There is only one sustainable
practical safe green way to do that. Nuclear. Yes we can generate 10
to 20% from Tidal, Wind and (clean) waste burning, but the other 80%, a
*shit* load of power, can only be Nuclear. That's a proper full cycle
(with Fast Breeder) Nuclear industry.

Mr Clegg will transport you back to a wonderful bygone era that looks
good in oils done by famous artists but for the man in the street was
probably remarkably shit.

Then he finished it off adding "no new runways". So not only does he
want to turn your light out he wants to confine you to your immediate
locale. If you stop generating electricity from fossil fuels, stop
deforestation and start reforestation and control population we can have
lots of nice cars/bikes and aeroplanes without unpleasant consequences
and live pleasurable mobile lives.

**** 'im, **** 'im right in the eyes.

It does my head in, we hear this shit about power production over and
over again. FFS the solution is being perfectly demonstrated less than
100 fucking miles away from the ****, in France!!

 

£40835 IIRC.

 

Everybody should pay less tax and government should encourage a more
enterprising economy. It isn't exactly hard to visualise, is it. And
nobody should be ever be left uneducated or rotting in the gutter.
So what we have is incredibly high taxation and huge amounts of social
expenditure but an utterly rotten underbelly in society. A failed
system.

 

I *never* forget Heidi TYVM

 

London is full of enterprising wealthy Scandanavians, I think you are
correct. They also have special brands of political correctness. Do
they still support Eugenics?

 

The Netherlands and Belgium have higher population densities (393 and
337 /km^2) than the UK (244) and Germany's is not much lower (233).

There is no need for new runways: we should have a proper rail network
for domestic and near-European travel. Airports should be for long
journeys.

 

it doesn't make you "rich", though. I haven't looked it up, but I'd
bet that the median of the top 5% is *way* more than the median of the
6-10th percentiles.

 

He is and he's also quite open about it. I wouldn't vote for him on
the basis of his policies but then I wouldn't vote for anyone with
religious beliefs.

 

Well according to the Beeb news yesterday we have overtaken them

You won't get any argument there from me (1) unfortunately we don't have
that rail network and the platforms are to short (tm. sweller). Until we
do....

(1) I love travelling by train.

 

it got changed to just over £6K from April 2008.

 

IIRC the Libdems have previously proposed upper-upper tax bands,
starting at £100k, presumably on the grounds that people earning 40k+
might vote for them, but those on 100k+ probably weren't going to
anyway.

 

I am not sure how you'd define regular people but a good friend of
mine works semi-skilled on production line light engineering[1] and
he's be moaning for the last couple of years about getting hit for 40%
tax. I am pretty sure that when brought in the 40% rate wasn't
designed to hit people like him.

[1] The industry in which I started my apprenticeship, but didn't like
being covered in shite.

 

JHC. So after tax thats some £1500 a month. I and I expect a good few
others here spend that much just on bikes/eating out/boozer

 

HMRC figures for 2004/5: 90% percentile is 39,000, 95% is 52,400 and
99% is 117,000.