Political naivety

Yes. It's a system of government where the people have virtually
no authority and the state wields absolute control.

Except that we can vote out local government. In the European
Parliament the entire British population can vote for just 87 out
of 786 seats.

riccip

 

Paul Corfield wrote

Oo err, the BCB doing satire. What ever will happen next?

 

Ah. They were going to invade by Messerschmitt, then.

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Football hooligans.
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marina wrote

Nope.

 

I'd argue that the UK is a good example of a multi-cultural society.

Regarding Germany and black players, I don't know, football's not my
thing. Does Germany have a large population of potential black football
players?

France and the headscarves- that was a move (misguided IMO) not of
racism but trying to avoid racism.

And Europeans not combining culturally, how much experience do you have
of dealing with 'Mainland Europeans'? I've a lot and the similarities
are much, much greater than you suggest.

 

I feel that within the UK it's not fair that I've only one vote. If I
don't like the government I should be able to vote them out irrespective
of other peoples' opinions.

 

"No blacks, no dogs, no Irish". ityf.

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But he's the evil hook; the Sun says so. Don't you know he's got more
rights than the rest of us, the Mail agreed with the Sun on this point
too.

I just wonder who his Mr Smee is.

 

Because they are facing backwards looking at a Britain that led another
world in many ways and are unable to reconcile our position in an
increasingly global world with our history.

Riccip, or whatever his posting name is, is probably around 50 (my
guess) and consequently grew up during the end of the empire. He's one
of a dying breed and the following generations don't have his views.

 

This thread is hardly indicative of national opinion. Most people
are so sick of this subject having just endured the Euro MP
elections they certainly don't want to hear it all over again in
a motorctle group. So naturally they hit the
next/delete/skip-thread button.

The fact that so many Europhiles continue to post suggests a
naive belief that your argument, if chanted often enough, will
one day be slipped past a British electorate caught napping. it
ain't gonna happen mate.

riccip

 

If they "combined", they'd hardly remain "multi-cultural", would they?

I suspect this more to do with Germany's lack of rampaging around
Africa planting the flag in every spot of clear ground they came
across. Not becoming a "country" until the second half of the 19thC
probably slowed them down.

"indiscreet religious symbols" is the phrase you're looking for, I
feel.

A young lady has just lost the right to wear a hijab[?] to school in
Luton - it was in all the papers.
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Salad Dodger wrote

With the 1st Italian Issetta brigade in reserve presumably?

 

This is based on what, empirical fact or opinion.

Come back in 10 years time. We'll have signed up to the Euro by then.
If it wasn't for Iraq we'd have been in within 5 years.

 

AOL

 

Well you can hardly claim that your own beliefs aren't the result of
brainwashing, can you, given your inability to argue your case
cogently.

 

riccip wrote

Au contraire. It seems to follow it pretty closely. The majority, not
necessarily for the same reasons, holding informed and reasonable
opinions in support of continuing and developing membership of the
European Club and a very very small but vociferous minority who have
been told to think otherwise.

Not at all. Pleas feel free to spout the anti euro bollox any time you
want. We do love a good laugh at other peoples expense.

 

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

Not so sure about the reputable caveat...

 

Cuntybollox wrote

This is not going to happen. If you care to take a look at the ukip web
site[1] and compare it with riccip's posts you might get a clue.

Like the web site his posts contain nothing of substance, merely a list
of sound bite statements designed to inflate the passions of the ill
informed and the hard of thinking.



[1] http://www.ukip.org

 

Yes but the problem is we export our finest produce within the EU
and receive the crap they won't eat in return. Go to any
supermarket in Germany, France, Spain, Greece or Italy then
examine the vegetables they buy compared to what's on offer to
us. German butchers advertise the slogan: "Buy German Meat - It's
The Best". It's no better than what we produce but wholly
superior to the garbage that ends up in our own butchers'
windows.

While we grow rape for EU export (the British prefer olive and
sunflower oils) we import apples from Germany to make
"traditional" British cider. Our farmers can't get any subsidies
for growing apples so the British apple our forefather's enjoyed
is virtually a thing of the past. We can't really blame the
farmers when the EU pays them £104 per acre to grow rape, plus a
payment of £200 per tonne for food quality rape seed oil.

I'm well aware of that but you're the first Europhile I've come
across who's prepared to admit to it. The very idea of paying our
farmers NOT to farm exposes the lunacy of the Common Agricultural
"Policy" to the point where your comrades generally dismiss it as
Eurosceptic paranoia.

I did. Failed asylum seekers are able to remain indefinitely in
our country by lodging a series of appeals to the Euro court, on
legal aid of course. Abu Hamza being just one. His solicitor, who
specialises in immigration loopholes presented by the EU, earned
over £400,000 last year from the legal aid budget alone.

Britain lost a generation of our finest young men restoring human
rights and democracy to Europe. That's no laughing matter.

Ah yes, the race card. The final resort of a bankrupt argument.
When I say "British" I mean our citizens of ALL ethnic origin. My
black friends are equally opposed to an EU superstate as my white
ones.

Free speech is a right in this country, but not incitement to
murder. However under EU laws you could be prosecuted merely for
criticising the EU. Further, since Blair saw fit to tear up the
Magna Carta and Bill of Rights, you can now be extradited for it
even though it's perfectly legal over here.

I'm under no obligation to do any such thing. If you say I'm
lying then the onus is on you to provide evidence to support that
accusation. Frankly I wouldn't expect you to believe much of what
I say. You're so sold on the European propagandist myth you
wouldn't allow anything to compromise your vision of a harmonious
future. That's how Hitler and Stalin got away with it.

riccip