Political naivety

Coz in a few year's time it'll be worthless. You'll have it
hanging on a nail in your bog.

It's Gordon Brown you can blame for that. If we were daft enough
to adopt the Euro prices would soar, as they have throughout the
Eurozone.

riccip

 

Excellent - we need more twats like this to brighten up our life. I'm
going home with a smile now

 

Living close to that area, I can confirm that vast swathes of the
northwest of England are safe labour areas.

I have actually heard someone say, when questioned about his reason
for voting labour, "It were good enough for me dad and his dad before
him!"

It strikes me that they'd vote for a pig, if it wore a labour rosette!

Kinda explains why schools round here are shite - keeps the next
generation stupid, so they know no better than to vote for labour.

Its so ingrained, in my area, that the other parties don't make much
effort - I've never seen any candidates canvassing.

I despair.

Before anyone pipes up - I'm doing all I can about getting the ****
out of this shithole!

 

The EU had it long ago, even before New Labour got in. They're
simply expanding it so the pen pushers have someone to push the
pens for them.

riccip

 

What astounding insight into the future you've offered! Have you ever
considered doing this kind of thing professionally?

I reckon you could earn a fortune writing comedy from the perspective of
the bloke down the pub, a man that doesn't actually know anything of the
subjects he's ranting about.

"And then you've got to take those Italians, with their knives.."

Initially all of the EU contries had exactly that happen, by less than
0.25% on average, then looking longer term inflation has stayed
consistent accross europe, and the numbers have balanced out.

Next I suspect you'll say it'll stifle growth... Well, average GDP
growth across the EU ran at 2.0% over the past five years (2.3% if you
exclude Germany, where they inherited so many financial problems due to
reunification).. and in the same 2 years, the UK's GDP grew (wait for
it)... 2.3%.

So, give me some numbers to work with if you want to prove it.

 

China is reforming slowly but surely, big changes going on there.
The people are the nicest, most industrious you will ever meet, a
pleasure to do business with. Within 30 years they'll be a
superpower.

You buy something for a penny and sell it in Europe for twopence.
The EU hates superpowers and will impose all kinds of trading
embogos/red tape as they do with the States. In a nutshell we
remain on the fringes and ferry the goods across. So long as we
keep the EU at a safe distance we're perfectly positioned to
clean up.

China will need anything we can supply as it develops. They're
already sucking in all the steel we can muster. They'll need
telecommunications, technical knowhow, services, and yes, arms as
well. They've been exporting here for yonks. Walk around your
house and most things you see, even what you're wearing, probably
originated in China. Those that didn't contain Chinese
components.

riccip

 

I don't know but you still seem to have retained your fixation for one.

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

<examines change in pocket>

Right now, I have a Spanish, two French and a Greek Euros.
When I touch them I can feel the sunshine.

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the point is to accept that politics doesn't change anything, only money
does so stop worrying as most people will never have enough, get on with
life and don't carry loads of political baggage round. I think.

Oh and buy nice Italian motorcycles which don't work or else get smashed
to bits by blind motorists.

 

I'll put it even simpler for you. It was a sneaky, underhand,
politically motivated, anti-American block against free trade
which violated GATT obligations. You can smell the French all
over the affair.

riccip

 

I sourced that info from the Encyclopedia Britannica. Drop 'em an
email telling them you know better.

riccip

 

In other words become subservient to them. I'm not sure we are China's
favourite nation given history and the interesting legacy we have left
them in the shape of Hong Kong.

Only if you will stop believing everything you read in the Sun, Daily
Mail, Daily Express and Daily Telegraph. Oh look twice as many
Eurosceptic newspapers as possible pro Europe ones.

 

Britannica is a shit encyclopedia.

 

Or perhaps it was a way of ensuring that the farmers in that area continued
to produce bananas instead of the only other viable cash crop for the
climate - marijuana.

And of course Chiquita complaining to the WTO despite the fact that they
don't actually *have* any plantations in the area was a completely
benevolent move, wasn't it?

Do you seriously think the USA gives a flying **** about *fair* trade?

 

Oh now you're talking ethics... I can do this one too.

I'd rather have a "politically motivated" GATT violation with the unfair
preference it gives to the Caribbean product than more Costa Rican
bananas, and the further deforestation of rain forest which cannot be
replaced.

Now, we can also take a high level view as to America's reason for
"fairness" here, the country you want us to align with. So, here's a
starter for 10: The USA got involved in the whole Banana trade war
simply because the mighty dollar is *far* more important to them than
the environment.[1]

Now who's the bad guy?

[1] You want proof, in one word: Kyoto.

 

Yep. When we're getting two Euros to the pound next year they'll
seem even cheaper.

riccip

 

Not as sweeping as you think. That was more in reference to Wigan
borough, which i have experience of, due to living within its
boundaries.

Which indicates that you have considered the position. The rest of the
conversation that the remark was taken from, was an attempt to see if
the person concerned actually knew who he was voting for "I just look
for the labour box", what the policies were " don't know, don't care,
labour looks after us", and on ad infinitum (when it was his round).
This was in 1997 - the bloke was 28.

That was a good while ago - It all turned to crap, now.

I wouldn't know..

Snot all green

I'm thinking countries, not counties. ;-)

 

Cash Exchange Rate (£)
06/17/2003 EUR 1.4751360
06/17/2004 EUR 1.5827760

That's 7.5% more Euros for your Pound in a year.
Keep smiling!

riccip

 

Therefore:
Pro-Constitution - 37.5%
Anti-Constitution - 42.8%

riccip

 

Our borders are the sea.

All of whom speak English as a first language.

No need to join the Eurozone then.

No. In Britain they are all tailored to British tastes. Nothing
like what you'd be served in their countries of origin. The Balti
was invented in Birmingham, and Chicken Tikka Masala was
unobtainable in India until we exported it there. Brit-Italian
restaurants rely on tinned tomatoes, Brit-Greek restaurants don't
serve Bourtheto, and Brit-Thai contains enough monosodium
glutamate to kill an elephant.

Then he'd get the Vichy-French vote.

riccip