Political naivety

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Eiron, Jun 19, 2004.

  1. Eiron

    dwb Guest

    Maybe - I happen to form part of the age group you've listed - though I
    actually voted.
    I'd like to think that whilst there are people like the ones you describe,
    there are a lot of others who have their own brains and will form their own
    opinions.

    FWIW, beer would have absoluely zero influence in my decisions.
     
    dwb, Jun 21, 2004
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  2. Eiron

    riccip Guest

    My British MP has no more rights than I do. I would object just
    as strongly if he had.
    It makes me very happy in fact. A British citizen free to
    exercise his rights in his own country. What could be nicer than
    that?

    riccip
     
    riccip, Jun 21, 2004
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  3. Eiron

    Ace Guest

    You'd love it. Really. I mean this. Dead good, it is, being able to
    spend the same money in loads of different countries.
     
    Ace, Jun 21, 2004
  4. Eiron

    Fr Jack Guest

    Good morning, sir.

    Today we have Ostrich, Emu and Penguin wings.
     
    Fr Jack, Jun 21, 2004
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    Champ Guest

    Whay an inspiring argument - politics reduced to a football match.
     
    Champ, Jun 21, 2004
  6. Eiron

    Champ Guest

    That's just a question of borders. Which have been pretty fluent over
    the years.
    Welsh? Gaelic? Cornish? Manx?
    We're all in a global economy now
    What shall we eat tonight? Indian? Greek? Thai? Italian?
    No, because he's nearly 80 years old. But, in principle, I don't much
    care where someone was born. And neither do the French it seems -
    d'Estaing was born in Germany.
     
    Champ, Jun 21, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Class, sheer class.
     
    Ace, Jun 21, 2004
  8. Eiron

    riccip Guest

    LOL. No, of course not. I've read so many stereotypes in this
    thread I thought I'd slip in one of my own. BTW do you know how
    they separate the men from the boys in Italy? With a crowbar. :)
    Many times. I was in Como, almost a suburb, just two weeks ago
    stocking up on lemoncello.
    Virtually everywhere in Italy.
    From Nordcap to Gavdos, and most places inbetween. Looking
    forward to exploring more of the Baltic countries too now that
    access has been made easier.
    If you knew me you'd say I'm the last person you'd call
    anti-Europe. I'm all for closer links between European countries.
    But NOT unification, political or otherwise. The whole idea is
    fundamentally flawed and the worst thing possible for them and
    us.

    riccip
     
    riccip, Jun 21, 2004
  9. Eiron

    riccip Guest

    riccip, Jun 21, 2004
  10. Eiron

    riccip Guest

    Having checked this it does appear I was wrong, and that MEPs and
    EC Commissioners no longer have their own duty-free shop.
    Following obvious public outrage it was decided their private
    underground "shopping bunker" in Brussels would simply discount
    the goods instead. So the privileged few now pay Belgian rates of
    duty, then receive a thumping great discount in it's place. Nice
    work if you can get it.

    riccip
     
    riccip, Jun 21, 2004
  11. Eiron

    Ginge Guest

    Yes, but do you know what the banana curve legislation was actually
    about, captain numbskull?

    No? Then allow me to enlighten you with a very compressed and over
    simplified sun reader friendly version.

    Bananas grown in the Caribbean (which bear in maind is mostly built up
    of former EU colonies) are a slightly different shape to bananas grown
    in Latin America, the other main banana producing region. The banana
    legislation was a political mechanism used to reduce the mass import of
    Latin American bananas over those produced in *our* former colonies, and
    thus was about protecting jobs and livelihoods.

    Now, go away and have a think. Stop if you smell burning.
     
    Ginge, Jun 21, 2004
  12. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    Is there anything about which you know something of what you're talking
    about?

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 21, 2004
  13. Eiron

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Yes and no.

    My principle objection to China is the shitty conditions in their
    factories - but that's because the West demands cheap trainers. Or
    rather, that Nike pays the sweatshops a pittance so that they can make
    profits for their shareholders.
    Cheap stuff.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 21, 2004
  14. Eiron

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Quelle surprise.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 21, 2004
  15. Eiron

    Ben Blaney Guest

    <covers eyes>
     
    Ben Blaney, Jun 21, 2004
  16. Eiron

    Ginge Guest

    I'm still waiting for a description of why the Euro is "play money" from
    him.
     
    Ginge, Jun 21, 2004
  17. Eiron

    riccip Guest

    Canada grows 20% of the world's rape seed oil and 10% of the
    world's palm oil.
    Please don't be obtuse. Growing our own food requirements, other
    than rape seed.
    We're talking 40 years ago, not the great potato famine.
    People who lived through those years say it was. Ask any OAP
    who's dying on a trolley in some forgotten hospital corridor,
    then explain how your grandiose Euroschemes are financed at the
    expense of their pensions.
    Bernard Connolly would have won his case in any British court.
    That much is beyond argument. However you try to sugar it the
    European court found him guilty of criticising the EU.
    Again Bernard Connolly didn't tell any lies. He was a whistle
    blower. If you were speaking the truth your employers couldn't
    touch you for it. If you were dismissed your employers would have
    to prove you wrong or cough up a mountain of compensation. Under
    British law you would anyway.
    Y'know, your attitude really scares me. Piss your own rights up
    the wall if you like, I'd prefer to keep mine.

    Not so. Kindly try any search engine then show me where I have
    allegedly C&P'd from.
    Because I'm strongly anti-Nazi. You Europhiles are happy to risk
    letting them in through the back door. Perhaps not this year, or
    next, or even within our lifetime. But this cobbled together
    constitution reads like Mein Kampf. The inherent dangers are
    there for anyone to see, other than those with Europhile tunnel
    vision.

    riccip
     
    riccip, Jun 21, 2004
  18. Eiron

    riccip Guest

    Politics has ALWAYS been a football match.

    I well remember some 20-odd years ago going to vote in a local
    council election, when a bloke came out of the booth with his
    voting paper to ask the assistant "Where's Mar-grot Fat-cha on
    'ere?"

    riccip
     
    riccip, Jun 21, 2004
  19. Eiron

    sweller Guest

    No it doesn't. Care to make direct comparisons?

    With references, not some Google-tastic lash job. Try to show some
    understanding of what you're talking about.

    You do seem to be strangely obsessed with Germany. Personally I'd be
    more concerned with the power of Dow Jones, Wall Street and the Nikkei to
    control and subjugate your work, security, pension and daily life.
     
    sweller, Jun 21, 2004
  20. Eiron

    riccip Guest

    I'll stick with exchanging my Pounds thanks. I'll get more for
    them as the Euro value plummets when the Dollar's back on it's
    feet.

    riccip
     
    riccip, Jun 21, 2004
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