policing bikes

thats what I've always thought.

Mike

 

Is that a trick question?

That's a bit harsh.

Yes.

Theo

 

"Moike" wrote

In a black and white world both Zebee and KP told untruths, but only
one statement was seen as a such, and only by KP.

Theo

 

"Intact Kneeslider" wrote

You too? I also have no desire to have a D&M discussion with a
policeman by the side of a dark road.

Theo

 

"knobdoodle" wrote

I heard (and agreed with you) the first three times. I apologise for
not saying so out loud.

I would suggest some people should spend a few days in a car and see
bikes lanesplit and park in front of them. It is definitely
off-pissing.

Theo

 

If they were smart enough to BE rocket-scientists, they'd probably ACT like
rocket-scientists. They're smart enough to BE coppers, so they ACT like
morons.

Just jokin, sorta.

 

....snip

<grin> alright 69 in a 60 zone then

JL

 

Prior to riding a bike(3 1/2 months) I was only once pissed off by a bike
pulling in front of me at the lights and that was when they took off slower
than me.
I have been pissed off by a bike splitting with me trailing them and then
they sit between the two front cars leaving me sitting by the back wheel of
the two cars to take off between them and wait for them to driiiiiift and
squeeze me.
JB

 

Zebee Johnstone wrote;

I don't think the taking off is much of a factor; it's the barging in that's
rude.
If I was waiting in line at the footy and somebody barged in in front of me
I wouldn't give a shit if they sprinted off the moment the gate opened; the
barging in was the offence.
What if I had a WRX; wouldn't you feel a tad annoyed if I pulled it over in
front of your bike while you were waiting at the lights?
~

I can't imagine any car drivers being concerned about a bike's presence
beside them, if that's where they chose to ride ('cause the rider can always
slip in behind the car if they're feeling vulnerable).
If the car is fast enough so that the bike can't get ahead cleanly then
doesn't that prove that the bike would've inconvenienced the car had it
pulled in front?
Clem

 

Hey everybody; Mike wants to be the new kiwipete!!
Explain something to him as clearly as you like and he'll still try and
pretend what you say doesn't make sense.
Anyone want to play?
Clem
~
Mike Doyle wrote in message

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 9 Sep 2003 16:58:22 +1000

Umm.. Clem... that's what lanesplitting *is*.

If you are not staying in your place in the queue, you are not staying
in your place in the queue. As every car you pass will tell you.

Pretending that you aren't barging in because you are sitting in between
cars is silly.

Zebee

 

Zebee Johnstone said....

ZJ> it would have been closer to the limit, and the judge agreed. Still got
ZJ> done for the speed, but he got off the drive dangerous.

And with that he scored a major victory. If anyone here has a dangerous
driving "conviction" against them, they'll know how hard it is to get
insurance. Plus the penalties are quite significant.

I s'pose the trick is to speed without being dangerous. But, with the
current philosophies adopted by Australian governments, to them speeding
IS dangerous. And it's a dogmatic view that will be hard to change.

Being a "motherhood" issue, it's also difficult to counter an argument.
Just ask Geoff Leigh, former minister in the Victorian Liberal
government, then shadow transport minister. He based a lot of his
electioneering on the Bracks' government's campaign about speed, etc. He
ended up losing his seat....

 

What if you were waiting in line at the footy, and this guy stands
beside you, and while you're still getting your wallet out he takes
off?

What about if you're the guy behind the guy he stands next to?
Isn't he cutting in front of you then? And anyway, you're
ignoring my 8 items or less queue point, you LEMMING !

I reckon in Melbourne it's rude not to pull across at the lights,
so the guy lanesplitting behind you can get out front too.

You say tomato and I say tomato.

-----sharks

 

So its alright if you've been queuing for an hour, and some skinny bloke
walks past the queue and squeezes in between you and the gatepost (without
impeding your progress).

Moike

 

everyone in this thread is a fucker looking up their own ass. I **** my girl
on my bike in parking lots, do you want to make a law to stop that too?

get your laws off my body and my bike fuckers!

 

Not all of us own asses. You're confusing this thread with the "Jesus
was/wasn't/couldn't've been a jew" thread.

 

Why would we look at our donkey?

Dunno bout the law but have you got a puncture kit for when she deflates?

Laws off your body? You got something for John Laws?
Who are your bike fuckers anyway?



--
KiwiPete's philosophy as quoted
"Do you want a medal for being pedantic... you knew exactly what I meant...
and if you didn't you are an idiot!"
Can't you read posts yoou moron... haven't you the pwoer of sight... are you
such a fuckwit that you don't want to see the post... Cripes... you are a
full booded fool if ever there was one... and a wimp at that..

 

no just use the spare fucker

 

Their freedom? To do what? Run the red light? They're stuck there until the
light changes anyway, and as soon as it changes the rider should be out of
there before the car even starts moving. (Excluding waiting for idiots
running the red, of course.) If you delay or otherwise disadvantage anyone,
you're doing something wrong. But if some blackboard monitor gets their
knickers in a knot because "those damn bikers always stop in front of me at
the lights" then they can - politely, of course - go and get stuffed.

Have you *ever* lanesplit? Can you seriously tell me that you've never taken
advantage of your motorcycle's ability to move between other stationary
vehicles? Why should you be allowed to do that? Are *you* special?

Not all vehicles are created equal. Some are large and built for carrying
lots of stuff/people/whatever. Some are small and are built for accelerating
quickly and fitting through small spaces. Each has differing capabilities -
that's why there are so many different models of vehicle on the market.
Given the difference in characteristics, it's reasonable to assume that
people who buy vehicles with certain capabilities might actually want to use
those capabilities

Don't get on a bike if you think it's dangerous. Don't cross the road if you
think it's dangerous. Better yet, don't even get out of bed if you think
it's dangerous.

It's all relative. I think it's relatively *less* dangerous to get out in
front of the other traffic, rather than either moving off from between two
other vehicles, or waiting for someone to rear-end you as they approach the
traffic lights and haven't registered that there's a bike there that
*hasn't* split to the front of traffic.


Again, if you don't disadvantage anyone else, and provided you're not likely
to do so, I can't see anything wrong with it - and I'm yet to see an
argument that will persuade me otherwise.

 

Ghods, is it school holidays already?

-----sharks