Police harvesting today

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David Ellis, Jul 28, 2004.

  1. David Ellis

    David Ellis Guest

    Lucky me.
    On the way to work this morning I left the M25 to join the M4 east
    bound. On the slip, the outside lane had a red X above it on the
    gantry. Being in the outside lane and seeing the problem up ahead [1]
    I merged into the inside lane albeit I had gone under the gantry in
    the outside lane for a short distance.

    I was waved in by plod and told to wait at the side of the road where
    he said he was going to bollock me before letting me go. Bugger, but
    could be worse thought I. A colleague was writing a ticket for a chap
    on a Thundercat. He went over to finish writing a ticket for a car
    driver all the while pausing to flag another 3 or 4 miscreants over.

    After telling me the errors of my way, and saying that he was letting
    me off with a verbal because I only went a short distance under the
    cross and wasn't going like the clappers [2] he told me to take care
    and sent me on my way.

    So I reckon that not being able to help with the clearing up the
    thought they'd take some scalps. Quite successfully during the 10
    mins I was there anyway.

    So, would this have been an endorseable offence or just a fine?



    [1] Tons of mashed onions all over the ouside lane
    [2] Which I usually do when it's empty as it's one of the few high
    speed bends on my whole journey.
     
    David Ellis, Jul 28, 2004
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  2. David Ellis wrote
    Neat trick.

    It brings the point home nicely that it pays be aware.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 28, 2004
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  3. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember David Ellis
    Lucky they didn't skin you.

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    Dave

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jul 28, 2004
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    dwb Guest

    Bit of a pickle...
     
    dwb, Jul 28, 2004
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  5. David Ellis

    serf Guest

    Sounds like they ran rings around him.
     
    serf, Jul 28, 2004
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  6. David Ellis

    David Ellis Guest

    In the 3rd Millenium, on Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:17:36 +0100, Grimly
    I thought I was for the chop
    In the soup or fried
    For a while they let me stew
    Not hung out and dried
     
    David Ellis, Jul 29, 2004
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  7. David Ellis

    Mark W Guest

    Yup - lucky indeed. A ticking off seems the proper response here, but
    depending on how far you went past it, could be considered a bit
    harsh.
    you might have got an MW10 & three points for "MW10 Contravention of
    Special Roads Regulations (excluding speed) " which can be used for
    all sorts, the lanes closed you describe, driving on the hard shoulder
    etc etc

    Cheers
     
    Mark W, Jul 29, 2004
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  8. David Ellis

    JP Guest

    Special road regs wouldnt apply - those are for the specific motorway
    offences of excluded traffic, direction of travel, stopping on
    carriageway, stopping or driving on hard shoulder, driving on verge,
    outside lane offences etc etc
    It falls under the specific offence of failing to comply to a traffic
    sign under section 36 of the RTA 1988 (and hence needs an NIP). Its no
    different from failing to comply with any traffic signal (traffic
    lights etc). Usually would be an endorseable fixed penalty - 3 points
    and £60 fine).
    People dont tend to realise that they as soon as they pass under the
    cross they have just "jumped a red light". People do tend to think
    that as long as its clear they can go (standing working in a live lane
    is rather interesting when vehicles are hurtling towards you!) Its
    also not obvious where the hazard starts - as the woman on the M25
    found out when she went through and found that the crash debris had
    been cleared but the huge slick of oil was waiting to be cleared by a
    specialist crew. Quite a few spins later and hitting 5 other vehicles
    and the central barrier she found out!
     
    JP, Jul 30, 2004
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  9. David Ellis

    Mark W Guest

    Thanks- find out something new every day. But the way you explain it
    does make perfect sense - it's a red light you jumped it, you're
    nicked.

    Cheers
     
    Mark W, Jul 30, 2004
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    Eiron Guest


    Is it also the case that the orange matrix sign "11T" in the central
    reservation of a motorway is compulsory?
    I always comply with that one even though hundreds of company car
    drivers don't...
     
    Eiron, Jul 30, 2004
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  11. David Ellis

    JP Guest

    Do you mean the central speed limit signs when they display a lane
    closed? In which case they arent compulsory in the same way - but you
    do lay your self open to a careless driving etc and in the same way as
    the red cross - you *never* know what is beyond them!
     
    JP, Aug 1, 2004
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