Pointless Urban 4x4s

No, i use it for off roading & all manner of other uses.

--
'Chill Winston.......'

Nige

Subaru WRX (54)
Land Rover Discovery II (2001)
BMW GS1200 (2007)
Honda CBR900RR Fireblade (1997)

 

Mercedes saloons can comfortably cross speed bumps at twice the speed limit.
At least company cars can. I don't know about privately owned Mercs.

 

Yeah, some people do slow down way too much, but many 4x4s have really
stiff suspension, despite the higher articulation. SWB ones are the
worst because they pitch badly too.

 

A well sorted[1] Citroen BX was just the job for such things.

*sigh* I miss my Citroen with proper suspension.

[1] If such a thing exists now; according to eBay it doesn't seem to.

 

I had many CX's which I loved. My friend is on his 2nd Xantia, which
he also likes - I thought they have the same suspension?

 

They do, ish. As does the XM. However it's the BX I yearn for.

 

It sends out a message: I have this impressive car but no clue how
to drive.

It's not only the urban 4X4 that is strange. Why do so many Germans
want the biggest possible behemoth of a car when driving on gravel
roads in mountains? 90% of the time grip is no problem on gravel,
meeting other traffic (especially other "adventurers" in lorry-wide
"off road" cars) is.
We met a superb example some years ago on Hardangervidda in Norway.
The thing was built on a Unimog chassis and had an even wider holiday
house on the rear. It must have made them crazy reversing or looking
at others reverse to find a wide spot every time they met another car.
The thing would have made some sense in a flat desert.

 

They way I read that, it suggested that the OP appears to be only
against the useless ones. Or possibly the useless ones and the ones
that never get used properly.

 

My kids are at a private school, down a ****-off long drive which has
several humps in it. Some of the mothers crawl through in their gigantic
hubby-company-issue Tonka Toys, inching gingerly over each obstacle as if
they're in the High Atlas. I enjoy thundering across them in my SOCitroen,
and not even causing the CD player to skip. This is deep in the country, by
the way, so there is *some* reason for them owning a 4x4. Still, 3 years
ago when the merest dusting of snow came down, the school damn nearly closed
for the day because so many of the froth-heads were terrified to drive in
the apparently terrifying weather conditions.

Needless to say, when there's only one to deliver/collect - which
lift-sharing makes rare - we go by bike and he's the coolest kid in the
car-park.

 

We did this topic quite recently. The (obvious) answer is that big 4x4s
have /much/ stiffer suspension than cars due to their greater weight &
higher CoG. Therefore whilst they are capable of taking bumps at speed
without breaking, it's a far from comfortable experience.

--
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
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'02 MV Senna '03 Tigtona 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250

 

I used to be delivered in my mum's Volvo 1800E. Dead cool it was.

--
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
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'02 MV Senna '03 Tigtona 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250

 

I'll see your 1800E and raise you a Lotus Elan Plus 2.

 

<out-cooled>

****.

<pulls trump card out from sleeve>

Dad did take me a few times on his Black Shadow though. And I took my
donkey on 'bring a pet to school day'[1].

<sits back & lights cigar>

[1] The headmaster was not at all impressed as I wandered into the
school hall with her.

--
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
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'02 MV Senna '03 Tigtona 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250

 

There used to be one of those parked outside my flat in Chiswick.
Fucking loud. It rawked.

 

Krusty wrote:

It's still sat in his garage but hasn't moved in donkeys years. I
wonder what state it's in.

Still, one day it will be mine.

ALL MINE, DO YOU HEAR!

<fx:folds>

 

It'll be fucked[1] - I'll give you a tenner for it.

[1] Trust me on this - I used to own a Europa.


--
Krusty
www.MuddyStuff.co.uk
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'02 MV Senna '03 Tigtona 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250

 

CT says...

<small voice>

Moggy Traveller, green at the front, with a black end. My old man
couldn't even have a car that was one fucking colour all the way
through.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki SV650 K3
Suzuki GSX-R750L
Yamaha 250 Flat-tracker
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

Champ says...

Look at his .sig, he still does.

--
Lozzo
Triumph Daytona 955i SE (Black with added black bits)
Suzuki SV650 K3
Suzuki GSX-R750L
Yamaha 250 Flat-tracker
I ride way too fast to worry about cholestorol.

 

That Lotus was about as cool as a Hillman Avenger.
When Lotus make ugly, they do it exceptionally well.

 

I suspect you're probably right. It's been almost 20 years since it
moved a wheel and I can remember it being a bit "temperamental" at the
best of times.